tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post1818970282625771908..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Doug Wilson bears witness to Andrew Sullivan; plus an aside on passionPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-52918026598852728832013-03-07T18:50:38.096-08:002013-03-07T18:50:38.096-08:00Kinda don't pay so much attention to Douglas W...Kinda don't pay so much attention to Douglas Wilson since I heard about his writings on Southern Slavery and lost quite a bit of respect for him. Though I am coming back perhaps the other way ever so slightly on him lately. He referenced DJP? Good for him.semijohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06188410200321163478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-73360259646385619412013-03-06T10:30:04.892-08:002013-03-06T10:30:04.892-08:00Self-promotion is a tricky thing indeed. You feel...Self-promotion is a tricky thing indeed. You feel like you've gleaned something from the Scripture that will actually help people. You pray about it. You decide to publish/post it (often with a tag line that says "glory to God alone,") and yet you almost can't help feeling sinful pride and consequent conviction when you garner some praise or acclaim for it. Sort of like the old saw about the gentlemen who was awarded a plaque for "Most Humble" student in his Sunday School class. (The teacher immediately confiscated it when he reached out to accept it.) At least we can keep our publicly-aimed thoughts Biblical, amen? I'd hate to be known for promoting my private "fresh revelations." (Btw, my wife says that this very comment is disingenuous to the extent that I'm hoping it will draw attention to my own site - what she calls "trolling.) Sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-35960818639671389782013-03-06T10:29:11.375-08:002013-03-06T10:29:11.375-08:00Sounds good to me. So would you agree that some Ch...Sounds good to me. So would you agree that some Christians have a very low teleological value, i.e. they're fairly useless? That's not to comment on their ontological value, assumed they are truly redeemed by Christ and otherwise regenerated by the Holy Spirit. They simply don't have what it takes to minister very effectively as a member of the Body of Christ.<br /><br />Now I understand this could be a dangerous admission for those who desire not to use the gifts that God has given them to contribute who would otherwise be effective. It's a good admonition for every Christian to try one's best to minister most effectively.<br /><br />On the other hand, it could be a comfort to some who try and typically fail to know that they can relax in the knowledge that God probably doesn't have plans to use them in a significant way right now. Pray, study, hang tight, and wait to see if an opportunity comes along because making opportunities doesn't work for such a person.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-60705551427297033882013-03-06T09:52:09.818-08:002013-03-06T09:52:09.818-08:00Me personally? I'd probably give up. As long a...Me personally? I'd probably give up. As long as I could stand it. Then I'd try something else when I couldn't stand it any longer.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-78648838065645952842013-03-06T09:50:56.322-08:002013-03-06T09:50:56.322-08:00So I have a question. If you wrote and no one read...So I have a question. If you wrote and no one read or you spoke and no one heard, yet you know you had something valuable to offer by way of writing or speaking, would you give up or try to figure out how to be better "heard"? I know of many who have far fewer, if any, readers and listeners than you do who likewise have valuable things to communicate.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-71328496248438260802013-03-06T09:00:42.773-08:002013-03-06T09:00:42.773-08:00Hey, he's an underpaid, overworked, and undera...Hey, he's an underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated very junior member of TeamPyro. We expect lofty contributions from David. Kerry James Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06083436735702873300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-6960672970140104492013-03-06T07:53:40.103-08:002013-03-06T07:53:40.103-08:00Wow. When someone remembers, and appositely cites,...Wow. When someone remembers, and appositely cites, a post of mine <i>I</i> didn't think of or remember...<br /><br />You're awesome. If only it were a marketable talent!DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-37272979343650229962013-03-06T07:42:03.590-08:002013-03-06T07:42:03.590-08:00I have noticed consistently that not one critic ha...<i>I have noticed consistently that not one critic has offered to take over the task of getting the word out so that I don't have to.</i><br /><br />Look: <i>I</i> don't like what you're saying, so <a href="http://bibchr.blogspot.com/2012/02/change-my-role-your-role-some-thoughts.html" rel="nofollow"><i>you</i> should just stop</a>.threegirldadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10514416693800430357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-19391291813274788062013-03-06T07:06:13.249-08:002013-03-06T07:06:13.249-08:00"Jealousy digs the mud that envy throws at su..."Jealousy digs the mud that envy throws at success."<br /><br />Or, as I used to hear from the Chancellor in college: "Anybody can criticize." Kerry James Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06083436735702873300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-28934909534474649002013-03-06T07:03:02.731-08:002013-03-06T07:03:02.731-08:00My last was to MT.
Now, to Kerry: I have noticed ...My last was to MT.<br /><br />Now, to Kerry: I have noticed consistently that not one critic has offered to take over the task of getting the word out so that I don't have to.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-72121222070859663482013-03-06T07:01:46.850-08:002013-03-06T07:01:46.850-08:00That's kind of you to say. Whatever I've l...That's kind of you to say. Whatever I've learned of speaking memorably and concisely has been at the feet of my betters.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-55845388713799659672013-03-06T07:01:39.868-08:002013-03-06T07:01:39.868-08:00Dan, this might become a Phillip's axiom. &quo...Dan, this might become a Phillip's axiom. "Those who abhor promotion and advertising usually don't have anything to promote or advertise." Or something like that. <br /><br />If people understand the hundreds and even thousands of hours that go into some of this work, they would also understand the desire to get it into as many hands, heads, and hearts (apologies to David Murray) as possible.Kerry James Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06083436735702873300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-19688279950707516412013-03-06T06:59:53.694-08:002013-03-06T06:59:53.694-08:00I listened to a snippet of the debate, and I was g...I listened to a snippet of the debate, and I was glad to hear the post referenced, the offense of Gen 1:1 is a crucial point too rarely made.<br /><br />I also found myself wishing he'd continued with the direct quote through: "That is, I believe in a sovereign Creator who is Lord and Definer of all. Everything in the universe — the planet, the laws of physics, the laws of morality, you, me — everything was created by Another, was designed by Another, was given value and definition by Another."<br /><br />He made the same point, but you really had said it so well that it's been ringing in my mind's ear since last week. Thank you for the post.MTHudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08539288419816728284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-78267368906459358212013-03-06T05:52:21.458-08:002013-03-06T05:52:21.458-08:00Fair enough, Jennifer. May I respond?
We've n...Fair enough, Jennifer. May I respond?<br /><br />We've never poked fun at anyone FOR being popular. Phil works for a pretty popular guy. He and Kerry and I (at least) love Charles Spurgeon, who was a pretty popular guy. Every one of us LOVES it when folks who teach truth do so effectively and with as wide a reach as God can give them.<br /><br />Further, when the popular kids do something right, we don't refuse to recognize, share, or laud it.<br /><br />Further-further, I trust you read this whole post? You'll note that I — even while expressing gratitude and appreciation — noted areas where I either flat-out don't agree with Doug, or don't understand him?<br /><br />What have we criticized in the past? Daintiness, elitism, timidity about important things, putting image over substance, playing down inconvenient truths. Is Doug Wilson noted for any of those failings? Boy, not that I've ever heard. In fact, one of the points I made in this post is that he clearly <i>is not</i> an elitist.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm in danger of heading off-topic myself. But I thought your point worth hearing and worth a response.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-47747513007839840272013-03-05T19:28:10.003-08:002013-03-05T19:28:10.003-08:00Here's where I think your excitement over the ...Here's where I think your excitement over the recognition may have caused people to look on with some disdain:<br /><br />When you sit at "the nerd's table" (I think that's what Frank has called this corner of the Internet) continually poking fun of the popular kids - and all of a sudden you get excited to point out that a jock says you're cool, it makes other nerds uncomfortable and suspicious. <br /><br />I'm not saying that I agree with it - that's just my 2 cents for perhaps why some may be upset.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12313739199470646212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-78900732622993330092013-03-05T14:59:05.206-08:002013-03-05T14:59:05.206-08:00I haven't listened to all of it yet. But if al...I haven't listened to all of it yet. But if all he gave was all those prepared remarks, I can't imagine Sullivan besting him. I mean, does he have anything beyond "I really want to, so I really should be able to"? Not that I've ever heard from him.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-54300309303793231042013-03-05T14:36:07.632-08:002013-03-05T14:36:07.632-08:00Just finished listening to that debate and I don&#...Just finished listening to that debate and I don't think Pastor Wilson did all that well. I'm side-tracking though...Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13068196575763786944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-32359187300505035562013-03-05T13:42:54.291-08:002013-03-05T13:42:54.291-08:00Eric, I don't have an offense. Perhaps you mi...Eric, I don't have an offense. Perhaps you might examine whether or not you read into comments and get defensive too easily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-29949811734168715372013-03-05T13:41:03.742-08:002013-03-05T13:41:03.742-08:00OP = Onion Picker. You don't think those thins...OP = Onion Picker. You don't think those thins got on your burger by magic, did you? :)<br /><br />By the way, in case someone truly doesn't know (I suspect Dan does and was just poking a little light-hearted fun -- good form), in blogland parlance, OP stands for Original Post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-29016627346608009962013-03-05T12:31:12.720-08:002013-03-05T12:31:12.720-08:00Dan,
You want to be really confused? Ted recentl...Dan,<br /><br />You want to be really confused? Ted recently opined that in your Gen 1:1 post you are "driving people further from Jesus". Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16345630463450652762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-19429323247676205772013-03-05T12:19:55.349-08:002013-03-05T12:19:55.349-08:00You're an Orthodox Presbyterian? What? I'm...You're an Orthodox Presbyterian? What? I'm lost.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-29264989883772913092013-03-05T12:15:41.537-08:002013-03-05T12:15:41.537-08:00Sorry Ted, I don't understand your offense. I...Sorry Ted, I don't understand your offense. I didn't mock anyone that found writing to be a learning process. Perhaps you might examine whether or not you read into comments and take personal offense too easily.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16345630463450652762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-11870143289614418102013-03-05T11:33:35.725-08:002013-03-05T11:33:35.725-08:00Eric, thank you for openly mocking those of us who...<b>Eric</b>, thank you for openly mocking those of us who have found writing to be a learning process to better understand what we truly believe.<br /><br />At least all Dan did (in the OP) was tell me that I am insane -- but I already knew that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-20206924181922674662013-03-05T09:31:15.882-08:002013-03-05T09:31:15.882-08:0010 bucks says he googled Dan after the debate.10 bucks says he googled Dan after the debate.Webster Hunt (Parts Man)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04631846083790242392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-83809659274082948772013-03-05T09:13:11.007-08:002013-03-05T09:13:11.007-08:00BUT HE DOES NOW!!!
(c:BUT HE DOES NOW!!!<br /><br />(c:DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.com