tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post225338581463943072..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: NuancePhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-23332459922161557712007-06-13T16:07:00.000-07:002007-06-13T16:07:00.000-07:00Cent's thoughts on nuance here and on his blog hav...Cent's thoughts on nuance here and on his blog have been great.<BR/><BR/>I was being facetious in my comment, but only half facetious, because in the specific case that got Cent thinking about this, from a computer scientist's* point of view, there is a <A HREF="http://www.sfu.ca/philosophy/swartz/conditions1.htm" REL="nofollow">world of difference</A> between "necessary" and "sufficient." <BR/><BR/>*For those who were paying attention in class.Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-75072962236024288832007-06-13T16:02:00.000-07:002007-06-13T16:02:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-69084664377001505562007-06-13T13:23:00.000-07:002007-06-13T13:23:00.000-07:00The people who think they have their particular be...The people who think they have their particular belief together in compact form seem to be the most immune to nuance. Here I picture the Roman Catholic who says, "Well I guess you Protestants can't say the Nicene Creed then, since you obviously don't believe in 'one holy, catholic and apostolic church' like we do."<BR/><BR/>The nuances lie in our scriptural understanding of the words "one", "holy" "catholic", "apostolic" and "church". We <I>probably</I> agree what "and" means.<BR/><BR/>The other folks I immediately thought of who routinely pooh-pooh nuance are our Arminian friends on John 3:16: "What part of 'whosoever' don't you understand?" Sigh.Mark B. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15942591774072214556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-59532912308922562252007-06-13T12:13:00.000-07:002007-06-13T12:13:00.000-07:00Is grace necessary or sufficient? Are we saved by...Is grace necessary or sufficient? Are we saved by God's grace <B><I>plus</B></I> some stuff that we do, or by God's grace <B><I>alone, in spite of</B></I> all the stuff that we do?<BR/><BR/>Nuance schmuance....Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-84267246880575207152007-06-13T06:27:00.000-07:002007-06-13T06:27:00.000-07:00Made me think muchly. :-)Made me think muchly. :-)J♥Yce Burrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14974221921014132431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-84622301790900095562007-06-12T14:07:00.000-07:002007-06-12T14:07:00.000-07:00Amen.Amen.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-8152214518771405502007-06-12T11:51:00.000-07:002007-06-12T11:51:00.000-07:00Ouch, a Pyro-spanking of the first degree. Thank y...Ouch, a Pyro-spanking of the first degree. Thank you sir, may I have another?<BR/><BR/>See my response to Cent's response at <A HREF="http://www.haloscan.com/comments/centuri0n/583517927255687550/?a=25090#163906" REL="nofollow">his place.</A><BR/><BR/>A great illustration of the fact that a sound-bite communication style does not lend itself to clarity - or the proper employment of nuance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-84742283198054977732007-06-12T09:37:00.000-07:002007-06-12T09:37:00.000-07:00doulos:this is what I'm talking aboutdoulos:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://centuri0n.blogspot.com/2007/06/about-nuance.html" REL="nofollow">this is what I'm talking about</A>FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-61653691524348318192007-06-12T08:42:00.000-07:002007-06-12T08:42:00.000-07:00doulos:I would reject your statement without any q...doulos:<BR/><BR/>I would reject your statement without any qualification. In postmodernism, nuance is utterly lost -- it is something they cannot grasp.<BR/><BR/>Hang on. Let me post something, and then you can see what I'm saying.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-76628870842677603752007-06-12T08:38:00.000-07:002007-06-12T08:38:00.000-07:00Steve:Shoot. I meant to link that in my post.This...Steve:<BR/><BR/>Shoot. I meant to link that in my post.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://aomin.org/index.php?itemid=2047" REL="nofollow">This is the article I'm talking about</A>.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-8511571622853531392007-06-12T08:08:00.000-07:002007-06-12T08:08:00.000-07:00Just last night I got in a conversation with my fi...Just last night I got in a conversation with my fiance's mother about Rome. I was grateful I'd read AOMIN that morning, because I was able to bring that very thing up to her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-54732549366230702832007-06-12T07:50:00.000-07:002007-06-12T07:50:00.000-07:00Frank, could you please provide a link to where Ja...Frank, could you please provide a link to where James White made this distinction? I went over to his site but couldn't find it.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499447751220981083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-68767314406921289572007-06-12T07:45:00.000-07:002007-06-12T07:45:00.000-07:00Nuance is the post-modern enemy of clarity.Yes, yo...Nuance is the post-modern enemy of clarity.<BR/><BR/>Yes, you can quote that if you wish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-40004461625484941512007-06-12T05:44:00.000-07:002007-06-12T05:44:00.000-07:00"and the Gospel from all its imitators theological..."and the Gospel from all its imitators theologically."<BR/><BR/>I wonder how many different ways the Gospel is nuanced? Innumerable I would imagine. Satan and his ministers are clever foes to the truth.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-77106523241709021872007-06-12T05:38:00.000-07:002007-06-12T05:38:00.000-07:00Frank,Excellent, short, concise point! One that I ...Frank,<BR/><BR/>Excellent, short, concise point! One that I thouroughly agree with. I notice there are some in the "blogosphere" that always bring the mallet.<BR/><BR/>You have had some excellent posts in the past week that I have really appreciated.<BR/><BR/>I once had a professor in seminay tell us budding pastors "There is a difference between patience and comprimise in ministry." That is a nuance I have learned.Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01256518337951573331noreply@blogger.com