tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post4440490429935114228..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Colossians studies 8: one more specific error and responsePhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-61827425265759693562010-03-19T15:50:45.076-07:002010-03-19T15:50:45.076-07:00The Pontiff is the Holy See. And I would guess his...The Pontiff is the Holy See. And I would guess his Cardinals are next in rank, then the Arch-bishops, then bishops, then monsignors, and finally priests. The Roman Catholics in this world, not all, but many, regard the popes and even priests as superior to us in knowledge.<br /><br />My Mother-in-law wanted me to go with her to see the priest when i began to share my born again experience. I told her that i'd love to go with my Bible.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-78549445367243828172010-03-19T07:35:43.264-07:002010-03-19T07:35:43.264-07:00it's those rascally young reformed kids, isn&#...it's those rascally young reformed kids, isn't it?David Ruddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12572780147564110421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-87076028565028826192010-03-19T07:00:59.017-07:002010-03-19T07:00:59.017-07:00Henry Blackaby? :)Henry Blackaby? :)olan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-89752966424239784542010-03-18T23:00:37.642-07:002010-03-18T23:00:37.642-07:00Spirit baptism?Spirit baptism?Mike Riccardihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748453197783538367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-18301486929960256302010-03-18T19:05:22.663-07:002010-03-18T19:05:22.663-07:00Not so mad, Erich. Nobody has said the (to me) mos...Not so mad, Erich. Nobody has said the (to me) most obvious modern manifestation of this baleful error, but you're very close.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-21849730923123334372010-03-18T19:03:05.326-07:002010-03-18T19:03:05.326-07:00I am convinced that one of the reasons for exclusi...I am convinced that one of the reasons for exclusiveness is there are some groups who feel they are the only ones in whom the Holy Spirit works. Scripture teaches that the Holy Spirit works in all who are genuine Christians (2 Corinthians 3:18) though we have a choice whether we listen to Him in any particular case (Galatians 5:16). But when any group claims they have a formula for obtaining a exclusive claim to the Spirit's working in them they end up dividing the body of Christ into "haves" and "have-nots".Mike Erich the Mad Theologianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682504413797395786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-23891344731748792732010-03-18T16:36:11.239-07:002010-03-18T16:36:11.239-07:00A related trend I see in postmodern evangelicalism...A related trend I see in postmodern evangelicalism is not just the advancement of these kind of hyper-gnostic leaders, but also the herds of sheep in the flock out there looking for <i>something more</i>. More than just the gospel, more than just Christ, more than just the word, more than just the apostolic teaching, more than...well, you get it. The narcissistic need to belong to something higher and deeper, something exclusive. <br /><br />How much success would these gospel-plus type of teachers with promises of belong-to-something-exclusive have if there weren't so many Christians dissatisfied with just Christ and the common standing before God all have through His gospel? Not so much, thinks me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-82555141966092529892010-03-18T14:46:50.993-07:002010-03-18T14:46:50.993-07:00ten-
Ten friends and foes, case you wanted to kno...ten-<br /><br />Ten friends and foes, case you wanted to know.<br /><br />Centrifuge or centripet a few.Strong Towerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834108238546908018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-83248008949689862732010-03-18T12:22:06.108-07:002010-03-18T12:22:06.108-07:00I've been following these posts on Colossians ...I've been following these posts on Colossians and after I read this latest (and last?) one, I was also reflecting on the exchange in the two recent active threads.<br /><br />The scripture that rose to the top during this reflection was from 1 Corinthians:<br /><br />[quote]<br />For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written,<br /><br /> [i]"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,<br /> and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart."[/i]<br /><br />Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, <b>it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.</b> For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I wonder if this "folly", this "foolishness" is not only what drives people to deride the good news of Christ crucified for us but could it also be why people feel the need to change the Gospel? To somehow remove the folly without losing the salvation?<br /><br />Perhaps it isn't only their own unregenerate, fallen and prideful nature but also their desire to somehow obtain just a little bit of what Christ does for us without having to repent... Without having to be regenerated.<br /><br />Then, when they realize can't take a little for themselves, that you must have all the Gospel or nothing, they turn upon the truth and try to make it untrue. Like the child who enters a contest but doesn't win and claims they never wanted to win anyway; that the contest is stupid.Mr. Fosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17652392944938128012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-55611023293122176882010-03-18T09:17:57.724-07:002010-03-18T09:17:57.724-07:00Extra cool points for the graphic of J. Jonas Jami...Extra cool points for the graphic of J. Jonas Jamison.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15147021671506048314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-81530376287871819512010-03-18T08:03:25.767-07:002010-03-18T08:03:25.767-07:00Yeah don't feel bad. I had a book published in...Yeah don't feel bad. I had a book published in 2002 and also learned that the pub's editing process cannot be relied upon fully to catch all errors. Fortunately there weren't that many to catch, <i>but still...</i>Nash Equilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06528684112014026512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-58916168598627661262010-03-18T08:01:32.126-07:002010-03-18T08:01:32.126-07:00Beyond the one given in the meta itself? No.
Now,...Beyond the one given in the meta itself? No.<br /><br />Now, back on topic.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-45221218549512415822010-03-18T08:00:30.499-07:002010-03-18T08:00:30.499-07:00Is there a particular reason why the comment secti...Is there a particular reason why the comment section on yesterday's post has been closed?Ken Pulliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-47085514976203046532010-03-18T07:57:38.896-07:002010-03-18T07:57:38.896-07:00Dan,
Don't worry about that mistake thingy. I...Dan,<br /><br />Don't worry about that mistake thingy. If you do that, then you get to make a <i>2nd edition</i>. Less time, same book, more goodness, cooler cover! It's win, win, win, win!!Brad Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00197301845256854051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1265223625535127212010-03-18T07:42:17.450-07:002010-03-18T07:42:17.450-07:00I have to agree with the Burninator. The faith we ...I have to agree with the Burninator. The faith we have is a level playing field and there is only one who is exalted... Christ! <br /><br />I always view that special knowledge stuff as evidence of the fallen and unsaved nature we see rise up in the Garden of Eden.<br /><br />BTW, I don't agree about that pope stuff... just don't burn my village!David Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17709270641017787218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-12783810406813989842010-03-18T07:20:46.470-07:002010-03-18T07:20:46.470-07:00Popes, poops. Anyway, yes Dan it does sound famili...Popes, poops. Anyway, yes Dan it does sound familiar to anyone who's accidentally tuned into a Benny Hinn seance!Nash Equilibriumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06528684112014026512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-26881025575479529012010-03-18T07:06:00.696-07:002010-03-18T07:06:00.696-07:00Is Trogdor an RC apologist?Is Trogdor an RC apologist?olan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-28846973922704187302010-03-18T06:54:45.910-07:002010-03-18T06:54:45.910-07:00Yeah, Trog, you have to have your special Popevisi...Yeah, Trog, you have to have your special Popevision specs on to see it.<br /><br />Very apposite passage.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-7681334844128350522010-03-18T06:47:41.796-07:002010-03-18T06:47:41.796-07:00Reminds me of the intro to 2 Peter, which is addre...Reminds me of the intro to 2 Peter, which is addressed to "those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ". Which is a pretty big statement, coming as it does from the pope himself. Or perhaps this letter is just to the magisterium?trogdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452996348717802065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-2902859344487998722010-03-18T06:42:03.054-07:002010-03-18T06:42:03.054-07:00Indeed the upshot is exclusivism which is an unbib...Indeed the upshot is exclusivism which is an unbiblical and ungodly isolationism based on false fundamentals rather than on Christ. This shows up in many forms among many groups today. If one doesn't mindlessly mutter; if one doesn't use KJV only; if one doesn't believe his "pope"; and the list could go on, then he is ruled out.<br /><br />On the other end of the spectrum are those who have an inclusivism that is an unbiblical and ungodly ecumenism.<br /><br />Both are an usurpation of Christ's headship and both are false ecclesiology.<br /><br />This pairs well with Phils post on fundamentalism and evangelicalism.<br /><br />Five stars!olan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-10667580953459033162010-03-18T05:45:39.915-07:002010-03-18T05:45:39.915-07:00"Sound familiar?"
Yes. Actually, it sou..."Sound familiar?"<br /><br />Yes. Actually, it sounds like every false teacher or "church" out there leading people to their doctrine and their leader, rather than to the fountain and Head, which is Christ alone.<br /><br />Thanks for making it so clear how Paul was battling false teaching in Colossians.Penn Tomassettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04426113620189406498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1215456415119308592010-03-18T05:35:24.580-07:002010-03-18T05:35:24.580-07:00Would these so-called teachers also teach that a C...Would these so-called teachers also teach that a Christian could become a non-Christian, if he didn't fall into line with their doctrine.<br /><br />makes me think of the Holiness Pentecostal church I was in for one year, until the Lord helped me leave.<br /><br />Thanks for the post.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.com