tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post6185540413300871155..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Strange Fire Conference #5: Conrad MbewePhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-53381540556774669702013-11-04T07:51:11.676-08:002013-11-04T07:51:11.676-08:00Jessica:
Here's one of West Africa's most...Jessica:<br /><br />Here's one of West Africa's most well-known "prophets", T.B. Joshua doing his 'thing'. There are worse out there - this was one of the more tame examples of his spiel I could find: <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xspP1JNXBSoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14529584785690604116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-66780055615901853612013-11-03T19:17:51.005-08:002013-11-03T19:17:51.005-08:00Are things in Africa this severe? It almost sounds...Are things in Africa this severe? It almost sounds as if were seeing a version of 1st Corinthians in the charismatic sectors of the church. I hope and pray for real repentance among those who are in error.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829696828482040807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-20275117296379607672013-11-03T19:15:13.909-08:002013-11-03T19:15:13.909-08:00Is the problem with faulty doctrine in the Charism...Is the problem with faulty doctrine in the Charismatic movement this severe? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829696828482040807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-67352142725771355762013-11-01T18:42:46.824-07:002013-11-01T18:42:46.824-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14529584785690604116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-2105562800556888882013-11-01T18:39:24.299-07:002013-11-01T18:39:24.299-07:00To anyone who still doubts the veracity of Pastor ...To anyone who still doubts the veracity of Pastor Mbewe's comments about the deplorable state of African Christianity, as someone who became a believer in the context of a well-known Nigerian Pentecostal denomination (which my dad pastored in for several years), had moved in dozens of other African churches both in Ghana and his native UK and continues to have quite the ear in these churches - may I say, it's 100% true, if not even worse in West Africa than in the east where he is based.<br /><br />There's a distinct reason you have NO pushback from his talks - because anyone who has been there KNOWS it's that bad. And I could prove it with deceptive ease.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14529584785690604116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-25688735310938533172013-11-01T12:29:28.083-07:002013-11-01T12:29:28.083-07:00So now we know the conference didn't miraculou...So now we know the conference didn't miraculously cure being-an-idiot.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-21664628969431321992013-11-01T12:21:46.173-07:002013-11-01T12:21:46.173-07:00I had a guy tell me that Bro. Mbewe and Mrs. Tada ...I had a guy tell me that Bro. Mbewe and Mrs. Tada were simply token negro/paralytic at the conference. So ad hominem seems to work for them too.<br /><br />What a shame.Webster Hunt (Parts Man)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04631846083790242392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-45049312372605012902013-11-01T06:46:23.755-07:002013-11-01T06:46:23.755-07:00Well, Mbewe as to Africa, Jonia and Justin as to A...Well, Mbewe as to Africa, Jonia and Justin as to America.<br /><br />Verification/falsification are not friends of the Charismatic movement. It lives in the shadows of credulity and laziness.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-7738288756952428542013-11-01T06:44:44.678-07:002013-11-01T06:44:44.678-07:00It's funny that the most damning talk at the c...It's funny that the most damning talk at the conference (this one) has no takers -- nobody running over here to tell us all the faults of the talk and the faults of Mbewe. <br /><br />I wonder why Conrad Mbewe is not the focus of the fight? <br /><br />I have a hypothesis: facts are the kryptonite of charismatic apologetics, and this talk was a lump of kryptonite the size of the Fortress of Solitude.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-74036003806809107262013-10-31T21:09:57.416-07:002013-10-31T21:09:57.416-07:00Scary thing is that in a lot of corners, especiall...Scary thing is that in a lot of corners, especially in the Christian intelligentsia, any concerns about the lack of good doctrine in African Christianity is pooh-poohed as being merely a product of Western bias.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-6018641237788588802013-10-31T12:10:44.231-07:002013-10-31T12:10:44.231-07:00I visited Malawi a few years back while my brother...I visited Malawi a few years back while my brother was working for a Reformed mission organization there. I remember seeing a church in the capital city of Lilongwe that had the large slogan: "Home of Unlimited Breakthroughs". The word breakthrough was used repeatedly on the façade of the church. Brother Mbewe's talk sheds some light on the depth of that phrase. I figured it had a Pentecostal/charismatic/prosperity origin, but did not realize the depth of tie-in with the African worldview.<br /><br />This is not an original observation, but I think it worth repeating: The charismatics don't seem to want to touch this portion of the conference. I wonder why that is?Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16345630463450652762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-24424944256079390552013-10-31T09:51:33.000-07:002013-10-31T09:51:33.000-07:00I listened to one of Pastor Mbewe's messages y...I listened to one of Pastor Mbewe's messages yesterday and found the Africa 'pentacostal-witch doctor' parallel fascinating.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13068196575763786944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-9895916430632010682013-10-31T08:46:42.125-07:002013-10-31T08:46:42.125-07:00Oh, but John MacArthur was so wicked to not exempt...Oh, but John MacArthur was <i>so</i> wicked to not exempt cautious continuationists from all responsibility.<br /><br />And while we're on the subject, what was up with FDR? Has anyone else noticed that his "Day of Infamy" speech said <i>nothing</i> about the cautious imperialists in Japan? I only wish he had bothered to take Tojo out for coffee first...Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.com