tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post6236649971786351680..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Things a pastor isn't (part 2): Lord VaderPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-87967786139177790952008-08-05T15:57:00.000-07:002008-08-05T15:57:00.000-07:00Thanks for finding this, Phil. Cradle Episcopalia...Thanks for finding this, Phil. Cradle Episcopalian here, at least until 2003 when the Episcopal Organzation went Scripture-optional. Now I don't know whether to hang with GAFCON or move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-14964067382061680062008-08-04T11:51:00.000-07:002008-08-04T11:51:00.000-07:00If you want to hear more by Reverend Short, he spo...If you want to hear more by Reverend Short, he spoke at the reFocus Canada 2008 conference at Willingdon Church, Vancouver. Links to the session notes, audio, and video are <A HREF="http://www.refocusblog.com/2008/07/refocus-08-audio-and-video.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-83946566391621708622008-08-04T04:48:00.000-07:002008-08-04T04:48:00.000-07:00"Greet him for me."Phil, I did that this evening a..."Greet him for me."<BR/><BR/>Phil, I did that this evening after the meeting. Wally said thanks and he was encouraged. He said Charles Spurgeon was friends with J. C. Ryle? I didn't know that.<BR/><BR/>I was talking to Rob Harrod, the current pastor of Grace Reformed Baptist Church here in Christchurch, he was at the meeting tonight, I have met Rob a couple of times and have heard him preach and he is very good too. He is an Aussie now living here in Christchurch. Anyway, he said you are coming to Aussie next year? And James White? Why don't you two guys come to Christchurch while you are in Australia? It is only a hop and a skip and a jump across the Tasman from Aussie to NZ. I'd love to visit Australia again, we lived over there for fifteen odd years and made some very good friends. But alas I am unable to leave New Zealand again. <BR/><BR/>The speaker at church tonight was Vaughan Roberts from <A HREF="http://www.stebbes.org.uk/?s=homepage" REL="nofollow">St Ebbe’s Church, Oxford</A> and his talks, among others, are available <A HREF="http://www.stebbes.org.uk/?s=talks" REL="nofollow">here</A> if anyone is interested.<BR/><BR/>I am listening to this one "Guidance and the Sovereign God Sun 27" at the moment and it is very good.<BR/><BR/>Apparently Vaughan Roberts is here in New Zealand, partly as a holiday and partly as the guest speaker at the <A HREF="http://www.visionnetwork.org.nz/thyme-1.3-ioncube/event_view.php?eid=399&instance=2008-8-9" REL="nofollow">Latimer Conference 2008 Hamilton</A> in the North Island of New Zealand. But he came to Christchurch first and spoke tonight and will be speaking again tomorrow night at <A HREF="http://www.ststephens.org.nz/" REL="nofollow">St Stephens</A> and I am not sure why it's being held there, but because there is a combining of some of the Church's here St Stephens has a bigger building which is more than able to accommodate all the extra folks. I think.<BR/><BR/>"Vaughan is rector of St Ebbe's, Oxford, UK and author of many books including Turning Points; True Worship, God's Big Picture and Battles Christians Face. He is Vice-Chairman of Proclamation Trust an organisation that aims to teach the Bible to preachers in order that they can in turn teach it to others and he is a founder of '9:38' which encourages people to consider full time ministry."<BR/><BR/>My wife and I watched the whole set of videos of David Short and J. I. Packer "Anglican realignment overview" this afternoon and it was the lady whose name I didn't catch that interviewed them both. Tears came to my eyes a couple of times.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14487653939801553210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-55666261390938217912008-08-04T04:40:00.000-07:002008-08-04T04:40:00.000-07:00Spurgeon - the architect of the modern revealing o...Spurgeon - the architect of the modern revealing of the unsupported positions by use of sarcasm. I guess God invented it in the book of Job!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the commentary.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-55547979270526968992008-08-03T21:07:00.000-07:002008-08-03T21:07:00.000-07:00Rick F. "I am confused by Spurgeon's comments abou...<B>Rick F.</B> <I>"I am confused by Spurgeon's comments about securing the colonies and the Revolutionary War."</I><BR/><BR/><B>BJ Irvin:</B> <I>"It would appear to me that Spurgeon is employing a bit of sarcasm. Poking fun a the Bishop of Louisiana who said that the Brits lost America for a lack of Bishops there."</I><BR/><BR/>Right. I believe Spurgeon is describing Bishop R. H. Wilmer, a southern loyalist, still sour over the South's defeat. It seems he made some some public comments blaming the Church of England for being slow to appoint American bishops in the colonial era, implying that this was one of the direct causes of the Revolution--or at least that if proper bishops had been in place, they could have persuaded colonists not to revolt.<BR/><BR/>Oh--and Wilmer's initials stand for "Richard Hooker." I guess his mum and dad were Anglicans, too.<BR/><BR/>Spurgeon was mocking him for his historical naivete.<BR/><BR/><B>Douglas:</B><BR/><BR/>I met Wally Behan years ago. I actually visited him in his home (for lunch, as I recall) during one of my first visit to NZ, around January of 1988. He's a very bold yet gracious man and a good expositor. You can listen to his sermons <A HREF="http://www.stjohnschch.org/" REL="nofollow">online.</A> I knew he'd be at GAFCON instead of Lambeth. Greet him for me.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-25234044220630122502008-08-03T19:05:00.000-07:002008-08-03T19:05:00.000-07:00Rick "I am confused by Spurgeon's comments..."It w...<B>Rick</B> <BR/><I>"I am confused by Spurgeon's comments..."</I><BR/><BR/>It would appear to me that Spurgeon is employing a bit of sarcasm. Poking fun a the Bishop of Louisiana who said that the Brits lost America for a lack of Bishops there.BJ Irvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15279844333123301815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-60221204580367052942008-08-03T18:51:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:51:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Udarnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014389397899721732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-20141209453469881082008-08-03T17:33:00.000-07:002008-08-03T17:33:00.000-07:00Yoda of Borg are we. Assimilate you we will. Futil...Yoda of Borg are we. Assimilate you we will. Futile is resistance.Solameaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09869424956571944997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-61664529639350876022008-08-03T17:28:00.000-07:002008-08-03T17:28:00.000-07:00I am confused by Spurgeon's comments about securin...I am confused by Spurgeon's comments about securing the colonies and the Revolutionary War. What did he mean since I've read it several times and still am somewhat confused.<BR/><BR/>Can anyone shed some light on that for me? Thanks.Rick Fruehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879848568892457571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-85043763680414267122008-08-03T12:14:00.000-07:002008-08-03T12:14:00.000-07:00Dan, you have no idea the power of the dark side! ...Dan, you have no idea the power of the dark side! Join me, and we will rule the universe together and stamp out manhugs!Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-33539256048931814342008-08-03T11:23:00.000-07:002008-08-03T11:23:00.000-07:00I commented on an earlier post regarding the fact ...I commented on an earlier post regarding the fact that I am a former Episcopalian...but their continued divergence from the Word of God here in the US reached a level that made me uncomfortable even <I>before</I> He saved me. <I>Now </I>it's absolutely untenable and painful to see what they - as a group, the few dissenting individual congregations aside - are doing to our ever-precious Gospel in the name of secular humanism and personal pride. <BR/><BR/>And then there's <A HREF="http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4311" REL="nofollow">this</A>. One must, in testing the spirits as John cautioned us to do, recognize the fact that anyone who claims to build a church and proclaim a faith on a Christ whose cross and sovereignty they <I>deny</I> are <I>liars</I>. Call 'em what they are, what John called them, what they call God with their statements and refusals to believe that He meant what He said. <I>Liars.</I><BR/><BR/>Add to that the joint Hindu service along with other interfaith "worship" services, the <I>Muslim</I> Episcopal priest who practices both faiths, not to mention Spong and Jefferts-Schori, etc, etc, etc. Brian McLaren and Rob Bell may not like it since the Anglicans are so "religious," but the Anglican Communion has led this emergent postmodernism movement for a number of years now, and the McLarens/Bells of the world are simply grabbing onto their coattails.<BR/><BR/>Douglas, you mention the persecution of the Anglicans who are standing up for the "true-truth". That persecution will apply to anyone who stands up for the "True-truth," <I>regardless</I> of denominational affiliation. I do believe it is the cross spoken of by the same One who bore our sins on one, and for whose name the hearts of His brethren break in the face of such displays of disrespect.Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16604068110452745043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-82422311502173604332008-08-03T11:05:00.000-07:002008-08-03T11:05:00.000-07:00I went to St Johns Anglican Church with my wife ye...I went to <A HREF="http://stjohnschch.org/" REL="nofollow">St Johns Anglican Church</A> with my wife yesterday and it was a very good message from 1 Peter 1:13-2:3 They will have it online later. I have only been to that church a few times but so far I have heard some well-rounded reformed theology and the people are warm and friendly.<BR/><BR/>The pastor, Wally Behan, had just been to what is called the <A HREF="http://www.gafcon.org/" REL="nofollow">Global Anglican Future Conference</A> (GAFCON) held in Jerusalem. Here is his report of the <A HREF="http://www.stjohnschch.org/audio/downloads/GAFCON.mp3" REL="nofollow">Conference</A> (mp3). The conference was mentioned yesterday morning by Wally and some others that had gone, including a visitor from England (sorry, forgotten his name) that was at Church yesterday got up and spoke about the conference and what is happening in the global Anglican Church. I can say that there is something exciting going on for the good, for the cause of the LORD Jesus Christ and His Gospel.<BR/><BR/>Yesterday afternoon several of the Anglican Churches in Christchurch and from the surrounding areas gathered at St Matthews in St. Albans, a suberb of Christchurch to discuss further what is happpening in the global Anglican Church. Very interesting. A DVD was handed out afterwards with a Rev. David Short of St. John's Shaughnessy, Vancouver, making some observations, and he interviews J. I. Packer about what is going on. If you would like to see David Short and J. Packer then you can go to this website <A HREF="http://www.stjohnsvancouver.org/worldwide-anglicans.php" REL="nofollow">St. John's Shaughnessy</A> and scroll down to here: <B>Anglican realignment overview video</B> to watch and listen to the set of videos that include the interview with J. I. Packer.<BR/><BR/>There is some form persecution going on for a lot of Anglicans in different places who stand for the "true-truth." Is persecution a refiners fire?<BR/><BR/>Hope this is a blessing for you all.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14487653939801553210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-89291516469884943302008-08-03T08:45:00.000-07:002008-08-03T08:45:00.000-07:00The tension is ancient, between Anglicans who are ...The tension is ancient, between Anglicans who are devoted to the Evangel versus those who are devoted to the Episcopacy (Low Church versus High Church).<BR/><BR/>The Anglican church in BC expelled its first cleric in the 1870s (one Edward Cridge, a pioneer missionary and the province's senior churchman, after the newly appointed bishop), because he spoke out against a fellow reverend's advocation of High Church ritualism.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of churches, it's time to go to mine!Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-62411174281550173042008-08-03T08:08:00.000-07:002008-08-03T08:08:00.000-07:00Let's pray for those dissenting Anglicans who take...Let's pray for those dissenting Anglicans who take the Gospel seriously, many of whom are gathered together in churches in the cities where we live.<BR/><BR/>A significant number of prelates chose intra-Anglican ostracism this year over lawns, tea parties, and <I>bonhomie.</I>Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-76330393717636736792008-08-03T07:49:00.000-07:002008-08-03T07:49:00.000-07:00The Anglican Communion is a slow motion theologica...The Anglican Communion is a slow motion theological and ecclesiastical train wreck happening right before our very eyes.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4438729.ece" REL="nofollow"> The Church cannot heal this crisis of betrayal </A> by Archbishop Orombi:<BR/><BR/>"The crisis is about authority - biblical authority and ecclesiastical authority. <BR/><BR/>The American decision disregarded biblical authority by violating clear biblical teaching against homosexual behaviour. For this reason, the Church of Uganda and other Anglican provinces broke communion with the Episcopal Church in America in 2003, and we continue in that state of broken communion today."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2490833/Bishops-ask--Archbishop-of-Canterbury-for-an-orderly-separation.html" REL="nofollow"> Bishops ask Archbishop of Canterbury for an 'orderly separation’: </A> <BR/><BR/>They said that the Archbishop, Dr Rowan Williams, would fail to avert a schism because liberals were determined to press ahead with their pro-gay agenda. <BR/><BR/>Instead, they called on Dr Williams to acknowledge that there were now two distinct Churches and negotiate an “orderly separation” to preserve a traditional identity for Anglicanism. <BR/><BR/><B>Liberals warned that such an action could lead to civil war in the Church.</B>." <BR/><BR/>My conclusion: Mainline liberal protestants and postmodern emergers are wolves in sheep's clothing. True shepherds must vigorously contend against these wolves to protect their flocks.<BR/><BR/>And if those secular witnesses outside the Church proclaim: "Look at how Christians fight amongst each other! They are a quarrelling bunch! Jesus said for people to love one another and these Christians are not loving each other; they are fighting each other! No way do I want to become a Christian!" Then that is the price that <I>must</I> be paid. What alternative is there?Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-51973591920768127242008-08-03T06:36:00.000-07:002008-08-03T06:36:00.000-07:00Best. Tag-team. Ever.But I won't really be happy u...Best. Tag-team. Ever.<BR/><BR/>But I won't really be happy until Chantry comes and insists repeatedly that the pastor is, in fact, Lord Vader, and persists until someone threatens to hug him.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-75325967356560816462008-08-03T05:46:00.000-07:002008-08-03T05:46:00.000-07:00The closing section about how the Anglican system ...The closing section about how the Anglican system appears to be nothing more than an attempt to re-fuse under Roman rule is eerily prescient, considering who is now in command <A HREF="http://photos6.flickr.com/9958184_1d3029f0e7_m.jpg" REL="nofollow">in Rome</A>.trogdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452996348717802065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-47346982191745276442008-08-03T03:49:00.000-07:002008-08-03T03:49:00.000-07:00I find your lack of faith disturbing ...I find your lack of faith disturbing ...FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.com