tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post6254635485151136891..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Before the Cold Medicine kicks inPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-44154392232040424602012-03-03T13:13:45.382-08:002012-03-03T13:13:45.382-08:00"It becomes obvious when the fault-finder rar..."It becomes obvious when the fault-finder rarely receives and embraces the constructive criticism given by others."<br /><br />I disagree with that, and who are you to tell.....<br /><br />Just kidding. All seriousness aside, we do need to always know who wicked our flesh is. If Paul said that he couldn't do the good that he wanted to (Romans 6) then how much more us.<br /><br />The TeamPyro Three Amigos do a splendid work and minister to the Body of Christ with their wonderful posts and articles when they warn us of the craftiness of our enemy in this world.<br /><br />Have a great lord's day Trinity.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-84866641960177127452012-03-03T11:01:23.417-08:002012-03-03T11:01:23.417-08:00There are at least two problems to be avoided with...There are at least two problems to be avoided with always focusing on identifying error.<br />First, finding error is not such a difficult task, because in this world, it is everywhere in and around us. We might drive ourselves mad with an endless pursuit of rooting out error everywhere it may found.<br />Second, once one develops the perpetual habit of criticism, fault-finding and what I also like to call sitting in the seat of the mocker, the person often becomes mostly blind or narrow-minded toward their own faults and hyper-focused on the faults and errors of others. It becomes obvious when the fault-finder rarely receives and embraces the constructive criticism given by others.<br />In the end, cultivating an active pursuit of seeking out whatever is true and right and noble and pure, over against finding every error is a clearly better emphasis.Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02455883391191886220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-40056131396417119562012-03-01T09:19:56.074-08:002012-03-01T09:19:56.074-08:00...because exceptional intellect is a largely wort......because exceptional intellect is a largely worthless gift if not a curse.<br /><br />And I'm not being facetious. One cannot teach beyond a student's capacity to grow and exceptional intellect limits the classroom considerably.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1687604623994531512012-03-01T05:12:39.845-08:002012-03-01T05:12:39.845-08:00I don't think that this comment thread is abou...I don't think that this comment thread is about the subject in the original post. But I remain confused most of the time.Larry Geigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13158449612437822789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-37924179100749793022012-02-29T22:10:08.550-08:002012-02-29T22:10:08.550-08:00....and as bad as the new Blogger template is for .......and as bad as the new Blogger template is for reading via a laptop, what it does to reading via iPhones takes it into demonic territory.<br /><br />Paging Driscoll in three....two...one....Rachael Starkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781158372237369417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-39238181617866685642012-02-29T22:08:14.400-08:002012-02-29T22:08:14.400-08:00The new Blogger template is a consequence of the F...The new Blogger template is a consequence of the Fall.<br /><br />And Steve Jobs was a genius who thought well. But an evil one.Rachael Starkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781158372237369417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-57568509365156439222012-02-29T21:13:27.413-08:002012-02-29T21:13:27.413-08:00To me, Frank's post was in line with Romans 12...To me, Frank's post was in line with Romans 12:3 "For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sound judgment..." <br /><br />We are to think truthfully and rightfully about ourselves, even when and especially when it is ugly. We are not to gloss over it, but are to be sober minded about it as our hearts are easily deceived by the indwelling sin of pride so as to think more highly of ourselves than we should. To me this is thinking well, not thinking well of myself, but thinking well about myself.Morris Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18083884122271855154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-34829124884631888762012-02-29T16:07:05.277-08:002012-02-29T16:07:05.277-08:00"..simply ruminating on the considerable exte..."..simply ruminating on the considerable extent of my own weaknesses"<br /><br />We need to always, always remember Christ saying to His Father: "It is Finished", when we do see our own sinfulness.<br />We need to know ourselves, and we need to know Christ. These are most urgent, not having examples, which we also need.<br /><br />Here's my favorite hymn touches on this issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IQUXJ_H16Y&feature=relateddonsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-22415299199348837472012-02-29T15:38:39.957-08:002012-02-29T15:38:39.957-08:00"I'm more helped by watching a genius thi..."I'm more helped by watching a genius think well than by identifying the fallacies and weaknesses of myself or others."<br /><br />I guess I get to be one of the few that endorses this quote.<br /><br />Theologically, I prefer to follow inspiring examples instead of *just* knowing that "Verse X says to act like this in Situation Y, and I didn't." Don't get me wrong, knowing what the Bible says to do is important, but without an example, most folks have trouble putting theory into practice.<br /><br />It's part of the benefits of being in community with people. Instead of only having our own errors, we can also get examples of people who do it right. I can learn from people who are soft-spoken, instead of just knowing that I'm not. It's a question of application, not simply academic understanding.<br /><br />Also, simply ruminating on the considerable extent of my own weaknesses is often a very quick way to get very depressed. I really like to be inspired by a good example instead of only being shamed by my own. It's one thing to say "Man, I need to stop this", and quite another to say "Wow, that guy did stop, so I can too!"<br /><br />Which brings it back to Jesus, the genius Truth that gave a perfect example of how to do it all right.<br /><br />My $.02<br /><br />-SorenGeneral Sorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00384485477108319450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-34532043161863605312012-02-29T15:12:35.370-08:002012-02-29T15:12:35.370-08:00@Tom ... haha ... just jokes.
As far as the tweet...@Tom ... haha ... just jokes.<br /><br />As far as the tweet, I also disagree ... if it was intended to be an "either/or" way of looking at it. <br /><br />If an "either/or" I would also disagree if the statement was made in reverse. <br /><br />I need truth AND correction and am edified by both. Where bloggers, preachers, parents and friends can fail is in leaning <b>so heavily</b> on one at the expense of the other ... and by doing so fail those they hope to minister to and fail to display, teach and live the whole gospel.Kaj Ballantynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06369620871177414476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-56139224947255028172012-02-29T13:07:58.241-08:002012-02-29T13:07:58.241-08:00I know that we shouldn't take the structure of...I know that we shouldn't take the structure of a letter or even an attempt to outline Paul's thought as a God-given descriptive methodology for our practice (despite all the philosophizing on the supposed indicative-imperative dichotomy), but it's interesting that in Colossians 2:6-23, a great warning against falling into deep humanistic, mystic heresy, Paul spends all of 2 verses on the "positive instruction" (Walk in Christ) and the next 16 verses on the negative warnings ("don't be taken captive...don't let anyone pass judgment" etc). Yet, in those 16 verses, still most of the words, especially verses 9-15, 17, 19, are a recapitulation of the truths about Christ and the gospel that were already given in Colossians 1. Always interesting to me.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05657160848405432116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-5204200738894141202012-02-29T11:16:40.640-08:002012-02-29T11:16:40.640-08:00Dan and Frank both wrote about "nuance."...Dan and Frank both wrote about "nuance." Dan was against it. Then Frank was for it. And when Frank was for it, Dan was too. So I suppose you could say that Dan was against nuance before he was for it.<br /><br />Word Verification: "yclicus kehatuti" - which this time kind of makes sense; it's the sound you'll hear in Dan's throat when he reads this comment.Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-86537828529529929412012-02-29T11:15:45.572-08:002012-02-29T11:15:45.572-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-67749874085942835422012-02-29T10:37:20.119-08:002012-02-29T10:37:20.119-08:00I thought Frank wrote about nuance...or was that D...I thought Frank wrote about nuance...or was that Dan writing as Frank? Is this some kind of weird test?Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987985549747283669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-10808752033894537002012-02-29T10:34:26.956-08:002012-02-29T10:34:26.956-08:00I'd hate to see what a hot toddy would do to y...I'd hate to see what a hot toddy would do to you. ;)Solameaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09869424956571944997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-54844508968190309432012-02-29T09:57:58.332-08:002012-02-29T09:57:58.332-08:00Frank hasn't been the same since he lost the a...Frank hasn't been the same since he lost the ability to clown people.David Regierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09766862583586784668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-13166882037175922852012-02-29T09:54:45.749-08:002012-02-29T09:54:45.749-08:00Having never read what Mr Ortlund wrote, I have no...Having never read what Mr Ortlund wrote, I have no understanding of the context in which Mr. Ortlund speaks.<br /><br />I think that the quote is valuable if we think of it as limited to just the one thing the "genius" is thinking about.<br /><br />For instance. If I watch a very good mathematician work through a problem, then I may be edified in my mathematical thinking. It may help me more than identifying my own "fallacies and weaknesses" in mathematical thinking. It may not do much for my evaluation of my own sin or failures in other areas of my life, but it sure might do some good for my mathematical thinking. Maybe.<br /><br />Now if I watch Dan, Frank, Phil and Tom work through a thought (such as this one) then I may be edified in my thinking and theology on this particular subject. It may actually do me more good than "identifying the fallacies and weaknesses" in my own thinking on this subject. It is certainly not a substitute for "identifying the fallacies and weaknesses" in many other areas of my life (of which there are plenty).<br /><br />Did that make any sense? Oh well.Larry Geigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13158449612437822789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-47955243964527724012012-02-29T09:15:05.121-08:002012-02-29T09:15:05.121-08:00You might consider using the Disqus comments optio...You might consider using the Disqus comments option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-85260033571099455762012-02-29T08:50:43.136-08:002012-02-29T08:50:43.136-08:00I see Justin as a more foundational reformed Chris...I see Justin as a more foundational reformed Christian Dan.<br /><br />I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. <br /><br />JT is usually well balanced, is what I was thinking.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-61699072169757200492012-02-29T08:43:29.024-08:002012-02-29T08:43:29.024-08:00@ Frank,
The pictures above the comment have the ...@ Frank,<br /><br />The pictures above the comment have the effect of breaking up the text and making the conversation less observable. <br /><br />I think it stinks, but I'm afraid to comment or Kaj will surf in and blame it on my anti-progressive ecclesiological prejudices.<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />I know, I know; I am loved.Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-9729224411451707892012-02-29T08:36:58.144-08:002012-02-29T08:36:58.144-08:00I am really hating the comments layout. I mean li...I am really hating the comments layout. I mean like: really. It's like we're suddenly in 1997 or something.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-57505497715721005372012-02-29T08:24:39.982-08:002012-02-29T08:24:39.982-08:00Frank, yes!
We let go of the old man and embrace ...Frank, yes!<br /><br />We let go of the old man and embrace the new man - Christ in us the hope of glory. We don't become mystical automatons. Rather, we are empowered to live out of a new resurrection-life that is not intrinsic to the old nature. We still work out our salvation with fear and trembling. But this new faith-obedience is 100% dependant on our living union to Christ. His Spirit produces Christ's life in us to bear His fruit and fulfill His will. Imperfect in this life? Yes. But all covered under his redeeming grace.John Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13008638529128561720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-39972038221970866142012-02-29T08:14:14.164-08:002012-02-29T08:14:14.164-08:00@DJP half the time people thank Phil even when you...@DJP half the time people thank Phil even when you do sign your name, you think it will get better if you don't tell us beforehand? ;)<br /><br />@Tom Chantry Come visit me in Houston and I'll arrange a tour so you can ask some "anti-counterfeiting agents" firsthand.<br /><br />@Frank Turk: get well, although I dare say you think better on cold medicine than most of us do clearheaded.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15285043747501470199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-30651805200977763782012-02-29T08:10:14.697-08:002012-02-29T08:10:14.697-08:00Perhaps: but that would be the first thing I'd...Perhaps: but that would be the first thing I'd emulate. So...DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-3210970411634867362012-02-29T07:44:35.863-08:002012-02-29T07:44:35.863-08:00John Dunn --
Well let go and let God then?
#part...John Dunn --<br /><br />Well let go and let God then?<br /><br />#participateFX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.com