tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post645504359214723744..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: ReformPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-17221055810308165982009-11-03T07:32:02.239-08:002009-11-03T07:32:02.239-08:00I think it boils down to this: if your systematic ...<i>I think it boils down to this: if your systematic theology premise is ------- <b>traditional</b>, you'll tend towards infant baptism; if it's ------ <b>Biblical</b>, you'll tend towards believer only baptism.</i><br /><br />FIFY.Gov98https://www.blogger.com/profile/08591233575630981982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-19860398872910079952009-11-03T05:05:02.656-08:002009-11-03T05:05:02.656-08:00Marie Said: I think it boils down to this: if your...Marie Said: I think it boils down to this: if your systematic theology premise is covenantal, you'll tend towards infant baptism; if it's dispensational, you'll tend towards believer only baptism.<br /><br />Someday we'll know whether the baptized household included small children/infants or not.<br /><br />RS: There are Baptists who are covenantal and are not dispensational. We hold that the New Covenant is different than the Old Covenant. For example, Jeremiah 31:33 tells us this: "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." Hebrews 8 repeats this as well. All those in the New Covenant know God and His law is within them. This refers to the work of the Holy Spirit who is in believers. Some Baptists are very covenantal.RichardShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18366661721715080133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-56497607220974710562009-11-02T20:58:34.653-08:002009-11-02T20:58:34.653-08:00The thing I love most about Spurgeon is how he sim...The thing I love most about Spurgeon is how he simply preached...to everyone. Calvinist, Reformed, Pelagian, Arminian..no one is safe. No one is allowed their idols, their uninspired traditions, their legalism or free license.<br /><br />We need more preachers like Charles Haddom.Bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03184505091838154270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-55335689539779347702009-11-02T17:35:47.052-08:002009-11-02T17:35:47.052-08:00I think it boils down to this: if your systematic...I think it boils down to this: if your systematic theology premise is covenantal, you'll tend towards infant baptism; if it's dispensational, you'll tend towards believer only baptism.<br /><br />Someday we'll know whether the baptized household included small children/infants or not.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17968485400051945217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-87867722953374494412009-11-02T12:02:58.381-08:002009-11-02T12:02:58.381-08:00Marie,
Spurgeon's point was that Israel had a ...Marie,<br />Spurgeon's point was that Israel had a physical sign of the covenant; that is to say a baby Israelite was obvious: they were born, therefore they should be circumcised.<br />The same truth applies to a baby Christian, once we can tell what they are we give them the sign and seal as well. <br /><br />We always want to interpret the Old Testament in light of the new, not vice-versa.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11630461838295942309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-91804999734737689092009-11-02T08:05:47.523-08:002009-11-02T08:05:47.523-08:00Just because great men of God defended infant bapt...Just because great men of God defended infant baptism, does NOT mean it is biblical if it cannot be properly defended by solid exegesis of Scripture.<br /><br />As luther said, unless he could be convinced by scripture and sound reason, then he would stand by his conscience. I'm certain Spurgeon felt the same.<br /><br />Semper Reformata!Sir Brasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01893578064434019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-24829940823671620052009-11-02T07:49:44.870-08:002009-11-02T07:49:44.870-08:00The more explanation I hear (by well-learned men!)...The more explanation I hear (by well-learned men!) in defense of infant baptism, the less sense I see in it.~Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01819856178499938127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-22688314518450189592009-11-02T06:14:54.228-08:002009-11-02T06:14:54.228-08:00Unless, of course, Spurgeon thought he could convi...Unless, of course, Spurgeon thought he could convince Luther of the falsity of infant baptism. That would have been a confrontation to see!Mark B. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15942591774072214556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-65456158017870387512009-11-02T06:12:57.351-08:002009-11-02T06:12:57.351-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mark B. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15942591774072214556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-68079197798065673092009-11-01T21:49:29.894-08:002009-11-01T21:49:29.894-08:00On the basis of church history, I really doubt tha...On the basis of church history, I really doubt that Spurgoen would want Luther to "rise from his tomb". The first thing Luther would do is to re-institute Infant Baptism in the Tab. =)Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-19341364009601028832009-11-01T20:52:03.452-08:002009-11-01T20:52:03.452-08:00Marie,
It is kind of silly for me to try and defe...Marie,<br /><br />It is kind of silly for me to try and defend Spurgeon, but he does give your reason for infant baptism when he said, "I am informed however, that the reason why children are baptized is, that we are told in the Bible that Abraham's children were circumcised." He does not use the word "covenant," but I'm pretty sure that is what he is getting at.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006325636921600509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-77044179399163288252009-11-01T20:51:41.266-08:002009-11-01T20:51:41.266-08:00Happy Reformation Day! What a clear testimony that...Happy Reformation Day! What a clear testimony that only the TRUTH matters. Superstition has poisoned the church and we see it abound. Selah! Come Lord Jesus!Dave ....https://www.blogger.com/profile/06340206720526412975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-85326690716748413462009-11-01T19:13:20.046-08:002009-11-01T19:13:20.046-08:00My reformed and Baptist friend, I know you don'...My reformed and Baptist friend, I know you don't agree with infant baptism. But Spurgeon does not present the Calvinist position properly here. We baptize our babies because we believe they are children of the covenant. The sign of the covenant was circumcision in the old covenant; the sign of the covenant is baptism in the new covenant. That's our position, whether or not you agree with it. <br /><br />I know the arguments pro and con in regards to infant baptism. I understand why Baptists believe the way they do, even though I disagree with them. But an honest representation of infant baptism would include covenant theology. That's the reason for it.Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17968485400051945217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-5196917911969604422009-11-01T01:20:45.697-08:002009-11-01T01:20:45.697-08:00Amen!
I love these doses of Spurgeon. That is a ...Amen!<br /><br />I love these doses of Spurgeon. That is a proper exposition of Sola Scriptura :).Sir Brasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01893578064434019702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-39342309104564866552009-10-31T22:45:36.568-07:002009-10-31T22:45:36.568-07:00Amazing how something written 150 years ago sounds...Amazing how something written 150 years ago sounds like it should have been written yesterday.Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07907232516924907165noreply@blogger.com