tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post6514716793282504700..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Insolence UpbraidedPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-35390812539833984342010-08-31T06:44:22.764-07:002010-08-31T06:44:22.764-07:00Magister - You assume too much. I am not attempti...Magister - You assume too much. I am not attempting to champion that all of Christ's followers are called to serve as impoverished and persecuted missionaries. <br /><br />Why do non-profit ministries exist? To pay out salaries comparable to those in the private sector? Is not sacrifice and service (as exhibited by Jesus - e.g. Matthew 8:20) an element?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-3662793314821210782010-08-31T03:13:42.202-07:002010-08-31T03:13:42.202-07:00Rt,
No, you did not create the post but you do sho...Rt,<br />No, you did not create the post but you do show its applicability. Why is 200k too much? Why does the pay have to resemble those of the donors (by which I get the impression you mean yours)? You throw out the words "accountability, accountability"as if the mere word and numbers are self evidence against what is proper. You claim some sort of benefit from the ministry ("see, I'm one of you"), but I have no qualms starting that you are not on the committee that decides compensation.<br />State your case plainly: why do such numbers fall on the wrong side of proper financial accountability?Magister Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15507216978994361047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-64744775252803846452010-08-31T02:55:37.972-07:002010-08-31T02:55:37.972-07:00Profile Not Available:
Who are you to pass judgme...<b>Profile Not Available</b>:<br /><br /><i>Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.</i> (Romans 14:4 ESV)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1588768565153484162010-08-30T18:34:03.555-07:002010-08-30T18:34:03.555-07:00Clinton - Matthew 8:20 - And Jesus said to him, “F...Clinton - Matthew 8:20 - And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.” <br /><br />Do I hear $200,000, $300,000, $400,000...? Whew - that's a lot of shoe boxes! Why are we in this?? I did not create this thread. There needs to be balance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-91894375654549120122010-08-30T18:06:32.357-07:002010-08-30T18:06:32.357-07:00Sorry, I am an individual who owns over 40+ books ...Sorry, I am an individual who owns over 40+ books by John MacArthur and was pleased to find this site. I did not have a blogger account and a while back used my e-mail account to set up a method to post - without spending much time researching the identity - it works. <br /><br />I stand by my comments with regards to stewardship, and expected accountability by those who are also stewards of funds entrusted to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-21386262916498065142010-08-30T17:23:43.680-07:002010-08-30T17:23:43.680-07:00The Teacher Of The WORD Shold Be The Best Paid Tea...The Teacher Of The WORD Shold Be The Best Paid Teacher Around.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08868617099707053233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-76203897612534253932010-08-30T15:39:52.388-07:002010-08-30T15:39:52.388-07:00OOPS. Failed attempt at italicizing. Here's ...OOPS. Failed attempt at italicizing. Here's the quote, with my own alterations:<br /><br />The amounts which are paid to [any man] are decided by those whom [he] serve[s], and it is of the essence of bad manners for anyone outside the interested party to interfere in such arrangements.Merrilee Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770625841767761025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-79384337859742283402010-08-30T15:37:57.603-07:002010-08-30T15:37:57.603-07:00I agree with Everyday Mommy's comment, Phil. ...I agree with Everyday Mommy's comment, Phil. <br /><br />And this quote from your post could be used once more for this comment thread:<br /><br /><br /><br />A generous and cheerful giver is one who is a good steward of his own goods, and gives for God's glory, not man's.Merrilee Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770625841767761025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-58742772871772466872010-08-30T15:30:49.526-07:002010-08-30T15:30:49.526-07:00What struck me most was that Dr. Morgan was more t...What struck me most was that Dr. Morgan was more than ready to return whatever money the gentleman had contributed to him. Although there is definitely reproof there, there is also a sense in which Dr. Morgan seeks to restore this man if he is a Christian - the issue isn't the money with Dr. Morgan, the issue is the man and his sin. I don't see those two things in concert as often as I should in my own life. Great post Phil.Webster Hunt (Parts Man)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04631846083790242392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-64798142238533410722010-08-30T15:17:53.697-07:002010-08-30T15:17:53.697-07:00I love the "board governance and accountabili...I love the "board governance and accountability" comment from a writer with no identity information.<br />I used to be troubled by people in former churches who charged church members for various help related to their profession (be it plumbing, electric, etc). Yet do not the scriptures say the workman is worth his wages? <br />I praise God that he both provides me the money to give (to members in my church, GTY, missionaries, etc) and gives them the chance to receive. Both are blessed by the one gift.Magister Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15507216978994361047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-84977957904746112922010-08-30T14:25:01.257-07:002010-08-30T14:25:01.257-07:00tuit:
What does board governance and accountabili...tuit:<br /><br />What does board governance and accountability have to do with broadcasting income disparity?<br /><br />And what does that have to do with this post?David Regierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09766862583586784668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-74570515044998915072010-08-30T13:55:11.554-07:002010-08-30T13:55:11.554-07:00It's the "haughty" comments that alw...It's the "haughty" comments that always catch my ire.<br /><br />I can handle some troll attempting to be cute or succeeding in being unteachable, but there is something extra insidious about a commenter who comes oozing pseudo-humility as a cudgel and smokescreen.Halcyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264274336322086961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-24016193241713973612010-08-30T12:38:47.483-07:002010-08-30T12:38:47.483-07:00Citizen - I like to see the actual tax return (990...Citizen - I like to see the actual tax return (990) filed with the IRS for the charity. Charity Navigator has limited information. The ECFA is a good source for information.<br /><br />David - My issue board governance and accountability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-44925959851662894872010-08-30T12:21:28.375-07:002010-08-30T12:21:28.375-07:00I remember talking to someone who was complaining ...I remember talking to someone who was complaining about the budget of a certain church in town, how outrageous it was. The budget was something like 10x that of my church.<br /><br />Of course my church had 250 people attending, and the church in question had 2500.<br /><br />Covetousness can take many forms, including wishing that the other guy had less, like me.David Regierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09766862583586784668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-42335307226916028182010-08-30T11:52:56.919-07:002010-08-30T11:52:56.919-07:00round.tuit - I generally check out CharityNavigato...round.tuit - I generally check out CharityNavigator when researching non-profits. It is shocking to me how well some of the higher-ups are paid. Salaries of half a million dollars seem hard to justify when your donation requests say that "$30 feeds a child for a year" etc etc<br /><br />Of course the counter-argument is that "you get what you pay for" and if you want a President or CEO who can really lead the non-profit to higher levels, greater support, more visibility, better efficiency, worldwide impact, etc than you may need to offer a more competitive salary to attract that person. I'd like to believe that people would head an organization because they passionately believe in the work it does, but sadly, that's a rare thing these days.<br /><br />Having said all that, any compensation more than $200,000 is a bit difficult to stomach, when I compare it to what my annual donations would be.CGrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03257084521984285384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-18750029801166885112010-08-30T10:47:50.006-07:002010-08-30T10:47:50.006-07:00I bet that guy's pastor was like, "Thank ...I bet that guy's pastor was like, "Thank you, Pastor Morgan!" I mean, that's the kind of dude who winds up on finance teams and inevitably decides that the pastor is making too much money. Yeesh.Brad Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00197301845256854051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-43537875777213540132010-08-30T07:58:28.814-07:002010-08-30T07:58:28.814-07:00In good stewardship, I still like to use guidestar...In good stewardship, I still like to use guidestar.org to see how and what charities spend their money on before I contribute. I took a look at the GTY 990 for the FYE 6/30/09. How many donors do you think earn over $200,000 in wages/fringes annually?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-11053053113901755772010-08-30T07:31:58.199-07:002010-08-30T07:31:58.199-07:00Aside from prayer, I wouldn't even know where ...Aside from prayer, I wouldn't even know where to begin to find that kind of humility in a straightforward, honest and righteous judgement. It's just too easy to be biting and sarcastic without consideration. I pray we would all model that kind of restraint and truth in our tones.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04446133793778555379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-17906533902192469032010-08-30T06:49:44.185-07:002010-08-30T06:49:44.185-07:00Very interesting way of putting it....I'd like...Very interesting way of putting it....I'd like to hear some thoughts on whether it's wiser to say "I have no intention of..." rather than saying "you will not find me living at a mansion" or such.Bike Bubbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08193546045614393425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-20271566951149838422010-08-30T06:30:02.730-07:002010-08-30T06:30:02.730-07:00I am in receipt of your amazing effusion
That'...<i>I am in receipt of your amazing effusion</i><br /><br />That's the way to start a response!James Scott Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07641370124346172648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-83809740096128752402010-08-30T06:11:28.472-07:002010-08-30T06:11:28.472-07:00But, Phil...you do write like that.
Thanks for s...But, Phil...you do write like that. <br /><br />Thanks for sharing.<br />julesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-7324035433837849192010-08-30T05:53:12.984-07:002010-08-30T05:53:12.984-07:00Awesome. I love that! For a full copy of This book...Awesome. I love that! For a full copy of This book visit gcampbellmorgan.com - The G. Campbell Morgan ArchiveMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16212156849795649899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-39369502434462136512010-08-30T04:52:26.831-07:002010-08-30T04:52:26.831-07:00That is a great response! I am going to store thi...That is a great response! I am going to store this away somewhere and send a copy to my pastor and pastor friends. Thanks for posting this, Phil.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987985549747283669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-47487068954068072012010-08-30T04:52:16.525-07:002010-08-30T04:52:16.525-07:00What is saddening to me is that Morgan's tone ...What is saddening to me is that Morgan's tone would -- in most evangelical circles today, even conservative ones -- be considered rude, "ungraceful," and requiring repentance.James Kubeckihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812381541964795270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-23920954770865925452010-08-30T00:52:36.217-07:002010-08-30T00:52:36.217-07:00And I wish I had the kind of restraint YOU show, P...And I wish I had the kind of restraint YOU show, Phil.<br /><br />We should all aspire to that level of restraint in our daily lives as a testimony and witness to the Lord.Sir Brasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01893578064434019702noreply@blogger.com