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(Part Four)Phil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-86697980330980237812010-01-21T20:20:59.425-08:002010-01-21T20:20:59.425-08:00@DJP - :-)@DJP - :-)JSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00681934865643964687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-27632411050680659232010-01-21T17:26:36.744-08:002010-01-21T17:26:36.744-08:00They're certainly indefatigable.They're certainly indefatigable.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-35088268908194337352010-01-21T17:22:08.107-08:002010-01-21T17:22:08.107-08:00@TUD - I've seen the guys here come dangerousl...@TUD - I've seen the guys here come dangerously close to almost flirting with with namby-pamby sentimentalism. The above post could even be reflective of an inner struggle? I can identify with that. <br /><br />I don't identify so much with the guys at Tribalogue, since they seem to be infallible.JSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00681934865643964687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-54891560025880966262010-01-21T16:08:13.533-08:002010-01-21T16:08:13.533-08:00Joshua Allen: "So I guess Christ was a lot l...<b>Joshua Allen</b>: <i>"So I guess Christ was a lot like the bloggers at Tribalogue."</i><br /><br />Hey! Don't forget to compliment the bloggers at TeamPyro too!Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-89397256020400939922010-01-21T09:53:30.022-08:002010-01-21T09:53:30.022-08:00So I guess Christ was a lot like the bloggers at T...So I guess Christ was a lot like the bloggers at Tribalogue.JSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00681934865643964687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-13487445155184013982010-01-20T23:11:33.145-08:002010-01-20T23:11:33.145-08:00So, let me get this straight: Winsomeness is not...So, let me get this straight: Winsomeness is not the earmark of Christlikeness?Ex N1hilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05386655937760778985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-35139819090589544012010-01-20T20:31:17.688-08:002010-01-20T20:31:17.688-08:00DJP, excellent series. I notice that this namby p...DJP, excellent series. I notice that this namby pamby view of love infects everthing including parenting techniques.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15285043747501470199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-4455597245127104922010-01-20T08:47:42.047-08:002010-01-20T08:47:42.047-08:00Dan--These posts on this subject have been very en...Dan--These posts on this subject have been very encouraging and convicting.<br /><br />I'm in full agreement with you that Christ was un-sentimental as He spoke the truth. But since He is God and perfectly righteous, doesn't He have the right to speak the truth in that way?<br /><br />What about saints who believe that we only speak the truth to one another without necessarily spending time with one another one-on-one or in fellowship? How can we effectively speak the truth in love if we don't first create some semblance of trust? I've seen the effects of a saint speaking the truth to someone he barely knows, only to sound like a resounding gong or cymbal (I Cor 13)and appear pious, judgmental, and self-righteous. <br /><br />Shouldn't we speak the truth in love by coming alongside one another as fellow sinners saved by grace, rather than someone who has "arrived."? I think all too often we try to speak with the same authority as Christ Himself. His Word is authoritative, but how the messenger delivers and ministers with the Word will make a big difference.Sonjahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14938147018164703524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-38160842635207631252010-01-20T05:27:32.380-08:002010-01-20T05:27:32.380-08:00Right there with you, George. Kind of the sun of t...Right there with you, George. Kind of the sun of the series: one either speaks the truth, but not so much in love; or loves, but not so truthy as should be; or does not speak at all.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-90653615420171203422010-01-20T05:23:52.148-08:002010-01-20T05:23:52.148-08:00This article brought the phrase "speak the tr...This article brought the phrase "speak the truth in love" to mind. Which takes tremendous courage for me to do at times. Guess I have a long way to grow.ltlgeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11461377251490822885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-67108983103624047062010-01-19T20:05:58.411-08:002010-01-19T20:05:58.411-08:00Sounds similar to a book I just started reading..&...Sounds similar to a book I just started reading.."The Jesus You Can't Ignore."Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00833725192258613330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-12514092578529902332010-01-19T13:34:48.055-08:002010-01-19T13:34:48.055-08:00Great post!
I'll note first that Jesus seemed...Great post!<br /><br />I'll note first that Jesus seemed to tailor his response to the individual. To some he challenged by being a little standoffish. They needed that. For others he went out of his way to meet. We sometimes read where the disciples or the crowd would occasionally prevent someone from wasting Jesus' time. Yet Jesus would talk to that person anyway. You may have such events with special guest speakers or worship leaders where afterward they are inundated by a crowd and inevitably end up in a long conversation with some long-winded super-spiritual person or another. There's just no chance that you'll get to even express your thanks for a helpful message or ministry. Yet Jesus didn't seem to be that way. The crowd would press in and some poor Joe would cry out from the fringes, "Son of David!" or climb a tree to catch even just a glimpse. "No! Don't bring those children here. Jesus doesn't have time to waste on mere children. What kind of faith could they have anyway? Let them grow up some first!" (Of course that's what I imagine their attitude must have been."<br /><br />But Jesus would approach some to heal them, invite himself to their house or welcome them. He didn't coddle them and he didn't frustrate them by ignoring the truth of their situation. And for every individual who came, there was a learning opportunity for those who sat by and observed.<br /><br />He was not unapproachable. He was direct, but not harsh. He was not verbally abusive. He called the Pharisees and their system of corruption some hard names, but those names were not untrue.<br /><br />One thing we must be careful of. Although Jesus is fully human and we can generally follow his example, he is also fully God and can do things we cannot. I'm not talking about miracles. He knew with great detail and certainty the hearts of those who he came in contact with. We do not. He is perfect and can demand and accept worship with absolute righteousness and perfect love, and did so according to the Biblical accounts. We cannot and must not.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-63683085213065561092010-01-19T12:50:38.529-08:002010-01-19T12:50:38.529-08:00I read somewhere that the wounds from a friend can...I read somewhere that the wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.<br /><br />Sound familiar, DJP? Perhaps there might be some of these thoughts about Jesus in your upcoming book?Chris Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09852172543604796279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-81975183166181877722010-01-19T11:52:51.871-08:002010-01-19T11:52:51.871-08:00Great lesson. Well done. There's endless wisdo...Great lesson. Well done. There's endless wisdom we need to learn about our Savior.<br /><br />Jesus as the perfect man, who never needed to apologize for misspeaking, or even tone, His words would have to bite us sinners a bit.<br />There's no way around it.<br /><br />And yet Jesus revealed His affection for His friends as well by washing their feet, and especially the "disciple He loved", our Lord allows us to see His affection John 13:23-25.<br /><br />Jesus makes a whipcord and beats people out of the church. And He washes the dirty feet of His disciples. Both acts of love and righteousness.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-45419261946853749522010-01-19T11:23:51.019-08:002010-01-19T11:23:51.019-08:00Dan,
I've been looking at these fine series ...Dan, <br /><br />I've been looking at these fine series through the lens of the whole MD as to whether or not it is loving to sign or is unloving not to sign in hopes to reconcile both positions. I can't help but think these series might have been sparked in a similar light.<br /><br />While I think it would be a greater love to side with the MD it would incur a greater work to un-confuse the true gospel. And perhaps this is tough love.philnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393311811604119321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-84873561185181025802010-01-19T10:34:06.694-08:002010-01-19T10:34:06.694-08:00J♥Yce — Thorough
I appreciate your kind encourage...<b>J♥Yce</b> — <i>Thorough</i><br /><br />I appreciate your kind encouragement. But my conscience makes me need to say that I don't think it's thorough at all. Phil, Frank and I could all write a whole lot more about the ins and outs, and still not cover it, as I did not cover it.<br /><br />But I thank you again for your kind words.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-88214572750155735122010-01-19T10:09:14.125-08:002010-01-19T10:09:14.125-08:00Always-good information, Dan, and I love it when y...Always-good information, Dan, and I love it when you reference your past articles which coincide with your current articles. <br /><br />You said, in The Laziness of Unbelief (and I comment now, cuz I was not here then..), "We embrace our feeling as if it were truth, and we sulk." <br /><br />This is exactly what Jesus is telling us here, in your current article,"STOP listening to yourself and LISTEN TO ME." Adam and Eve did this in the garden, and we still do not listen like we should. I would love to count how many times in Scripture God tells us to listen to Him. <br /><br />It may be hard to hear a rebuke at times, but "It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools (Ecc 7:5)."Mary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-20184985482522684922010-01-19T10:08:20.991-08:002010-01-19T10:08:20.991-08:00A pastor of mine once told me, "The person wh...A pastor of mine once told me, "The person who loves you best is the one who tells you the most truth." He meant much the same thing as you; focus on substance rather than gushyness. Now he didn't exactly mean to apply it this way, but as I was reading your post I thought, "It's true, the Person who tells me the most truth really does love me best - and He is my Lord."Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-66799708773515158932010-01-19T10:04:01.732-08:002010-01-19T10:04:01.732-08:00Superb post.
"Jesus' display of love for...Superb post.<br /><br /><i>"Jesus' display of love for neighbor was markedly un-sentimental."</i><br /><br />Are there folks who object to your observation? If so, why?Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-91656648145734845532010-01-19T09:43:43.563-08:002010-01-19T09:43:43.563-08:00Alway with grace ~ seasoned with salt.
Thorough...Alway with grace ~ seasoned with <i>salt</i>. <br /><br />Thorough. awesome. thanks.J♥Yce Burrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14974221921014132431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1066798381294267902010-01-19T09:26:09.187-08:002010-01-19T09:26:09.187-08:00How would you relate this to evangelism? So many ...How would you relate this to evangelism? So many times we are "apologists" instead of evangelists no one ever gets knocked around spiritually.Rhesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17458517759776299391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-17964527347486574572010-01-19T08:57:38.357-08:002010-01-19T08:57:38.357-08:00Hater.Hater.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-87512481542837050042010-01-19T08:55:29.685-08:002010-01-19T08:55:29.685-08:00Love (we learn from Jesus) isn't primarily abo...<i>Love (we learn from Jesus) isn't primarily about protecting pride at all costs, shielding <b>feelngs</b>, flattering, accommodating, avoiding perceived insult, nor meeting felt needs.</i><br /><br />Dan,<br /><br />Not to hurt your feelngs, but there's a typo in your piece.<br /><br />In Christ,<br />CDCoram Deohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504564435400500996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-66566474532343559362010-01-19T08:43:23.233-08:002010-01-19T08:43:23.233-08:00Thanks for putting in words the concept that I hav...Thanks for putting in words the concept that I have been feeling for a while.<br />We struggle with loving enough, or correctly because we can’t agree on what love is.<br />We have many terms that are foundational to our faith, (faith being one of them) that we need clean up our definitions. and of course the only way to clear up a definition of anything correctly, is to look at scripture and see what those term mean to God.<br />Turns out that loving in God’s economy is not giving what is wanted, it is giving what is needed.mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10436809417566796558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-76991326095024782562010-01-19T08:12:59.909-08:002010-01-19T08:12:59.909-08:00Challenging. Convicting. Great insights.Challenging. Convicting. Great insights.mark piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882538938829765324noreply@blogger.com