tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post115159132315064421..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Visionary truthsPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151668325048071772006-06-30T04:52:00.000-07:002006-06-30T04:52:00.000-07:00Robert -- Absolutely, Matthew 7:1 would have to be...<B>Robert</B> -- Absolutely, Matthew 7:1 would have to be on the list.<BR/><BR/>Especially if the list were filtered to "Verses most abused by people who could not locate them in the Bible if their lives depended upon it."DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151634857099158162006-06-29T19:34:00.000-07:002006-06-29T19:34:00.000-07:00Hard to say more than a good hearty AMEN! I have h...Hard to say more than a good hearty AMEN! I have heard this verse abused so many times in IFB circles by men trying to peddle their own “vision” rather than proclaiming God’s vision through the solid exposition of the Word of God.AuthenticTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10067252582009478310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151630109741403482006-06-29T18:15:00.000-07:002006-06-29T18:15:00.000-07:00No, the most abused text in history has to be Matt...No, the most abused text in history has to be Matthew 7:1- you know-"Judge not, that ye be not judged". It's always interpreted as - "You can't criticize me, so SHUT UP!"Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416549612706591718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151629894504487612006-06-29T18:11:00.000-07:002006-06-29T18:11:00.000-07:00Very good thoughts. Good stuff to ponder. Do we ne...Very good thoughts. Good stuff to ponder. <BR/>Do we need a vision to be excited to live out our lives for God?<BR/>Or is the truth of God cause enough for us to be excited about living out our lives for Him?donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151628855301171052006-06-29T17:54:00.000-07:002006-06-29T17:54:00.000-07:00That reminds me of my brother's sunday school teac...That reminds me of my brother's sunday school teacher in an Alliance church who read "the LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want." And said "now, this passage is telling us the evils of wanting things." Ah, how I love my <I>current</I> church...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151626689208191702006-06-29T17:18:00.000-07:002006-06-29T17:18:00.000-07:00Good verses, Antonio, had you meant, instead, to p...Good verses, Antonio, had you meant, instead, to post verses indicating that the apostle would use methods and tactics to manipulate people?DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151624418925500402006-06-29T16:40:00.000-07:002006-06-29T16:40:00.000-07:00I am wondering how this:----------Paul controls no...I am wondering how this:<BR/>----------<BR/>Paul controls none of them. His only way to "control" would be to engage in tactics, methods, manipulation, and we already know that the apostle will have none of that<BR/>----------<BR/>Squares with this:<BR/><BR/>----------<BR/>1 Cor 9:19-22<BR/>For though I am free from all men, <B>I have made myself</B> a servant to all, <B>that I might win</B> the more; 20 and to the Jews <B>I became as</B> a Jew, <B>that I might win</B> Jews; to those who are under the law, <B>as under the law</B>, <B>that I might win</B> those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, <B>as without law</B>(not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), <B>that I might win</B> those who are without law; 22 to the weak <B>I became as weak</B>, <B>that I might win</B> the weak. <B>I have become all things to all men, that I might <I>by all means</I> save some.</B><BR/>NKJV<BR/><BR/>In the least, the Apostle is engaging in tactics and methods...<BR/><BR/>(May I assume that it will be "squared" by presenting secondary explanations and proposing additional assumptions not resident in the text?)<BR/><BR/>AntonioAntoniohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08383024070371150288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151610440021599722006-06-29T12:47:00.000-07:002006-06-29T12:47:00.000-07:00Right on!I really messed up a Bible study one day ...Right on!<BR/><BR/>I really messed up a Bible study one day when the leader started by asking what we thought of this verse (of course hoping to end up with a discussion of "vision"). ;-)<BR/><BR/>Great verse. Thanks for talking about it.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17828475090100914640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151608315968645842006-06-29T12:11:00.000-07:002006-06-29T12:11:00.000-07:00And so I render the verse, "Without revelation a p...<EM>And so I render the verse, "Without revelation a people runs wild; But the [people] keeping the Law, happy is it." </EM><BR/><BR/> So Dan, are you working on the revision of the NWT? That's almost as clunky as 'fathers do not be irritating your children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of Jehovah'...<BR/><BR/> ;-)Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14873728356115837593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151604731782651842006-06-29T11:12:00.000-07:002006-06-29T11:12:00.000-07:001. If you follow Henry into Song of Solomon, be s...1. If you follow Henry into Song of Solomon, be sure to strap on your seatbelt and keep your arms and legs inside the car!<BR/><BR/>2. I love E-Sword. E-Sword rocks. It's A MAZ ING what you can get for free with that program, and I like the interface. Sending him some financial support is on my list of things to do.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151602878135808152006-06-29T10:41:00.000-07:002006-06-29T10:41:00.000-07:00should of said, That is MH's commentary on that ve...should of said, That is MH's commentary on that verse<BR/><BR/>E-sword is fun<BR/><BR/>Graydave - if you use even simple tools like esword (for us dummies not smart enough to use big boy toys), you will find alot of help in getting others views on scripture<BR/><BR/>Not that MH is the end all of commentaries, but it does let you see alot of stuff all together without having to drag out multiple books.David A. Carlsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00465387359523299616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151602614496049322006-06-29T10:36:00.000-07:002006-06-29T10:36:00.000-07:00How bare does a place look without Bibles and mini...How bare does a place look without Bibles and ministers! and what an easy prey is it to the enemy of souls! That gospel is an open vision, which holds forth Christ, which humbles the sinner and exalts the Saviour, which promotes holiness in the life and conversation: and these are precious truths to keep the soul alive, and prevent it from perishing.<BR/><BR/>Mathew HenryDavid A. Carlsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00465387359523299616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151600564849295232006-06-29T10:02:00.000-07:002006-06-29T10:02:00.000-07:00Thanks for the very informative post.Thanks for the very informative post.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03462064149305592733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151598184389853622006-06-29T09:23:00.000-07:002006-06-29T09:23:00.000-07:00Uh... you were kidding... right?-:^0Uh... you were kidding... right?<BR/><BR/>-:^0DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151598094956666262006-06-29T09:21:00.000-07:002006-06-29T09:21:00.000-07:00Turk -- ...it is not you, but it is Dan.I needed t...<B>Turk</B> -- <I>...it is not you, but it is Dan.</I><BR/><BR/>I needed that laugh today; thanks.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151597725615986552006-06-29T09:15:00.000-07:002006-06-29T09:15:00.000-07:00Good stuff Dan, thanks.You would get a kick out of...Good stuff Dan, thanks.<BR/><BR/>You would get a kick out of hearing Jack Hughes preach on Psalm 118:24 "This is the day that the LORD has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it." its hillarious, although when I first heard him do so I felt a lot like how graydave describes. :-)<BR/><BR/>Context is the king of interpretation!<BR/><BR/>I love this bro:<BR/><BR/>"Set goals, set specific goals, set adjustable goals; and do it within the framework and values laid down in the inerrant, abiding, sufficient Word of God."<BR/><BR/>It reminds me of my favorite John MacArthur book, a little pamphlet titled "Found Gods Will" that probably had the biggest efect on me of any book outside of the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.LeeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540608568274871363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151597630655218602006-06-29T09:13:00.000-07:002006-06-29T09:13:00.000-07:00Dave:Take cconsolation in the fact that it is not ...Dave:<BR/><BR/>Take cconsolation in the fact that it is not you, but it is Dan.<BR/><BR/>Seriously though, one of the major problems in Evangelidom today is ridiculously-poor exposition of Scripture. I just got off the blog with a fellow responding to my last TeamPyro postand he wanted to challenge the idea of the particular work of Christ by citing Rev 3 -- "I stand at the door and knock."<BR/><BR/>Now, seriously -- that verse is preached as an open invitation to salvation in Christ Jesus about every other week, right? You can probably find a church that has a pastor who is going to use that verse that way this weekend if you look hard enough.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that <I>there is no way this verse is an open invitation to anything.</I> The passage is to the church in Laodicea, the context is that God is right now offering them correction, and that they would do pretty good to listen and stand corrected.<BR/><BR/>And rather than re-blog the rest of my complaint about that, let me suggest this: the heart of the Christian life is a constant state of reformation in which we are constantly going back to Scripture and making sure we, as John MacArthur recently said at T4G, "got the passage right" -- that we have applied what God;s word actually says to the life we actually have and have yielded the sanctification God actually has in store for us.<BR/><BR/>Kudos to Dan, btw, for this post. In spite of me always taking a shot at him, he's always a good read.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151597306181126972006-06-29T09:08:00.000-07:002006-06-29T09:08:00.000-07:00I've often said that the only people I've ever bee...I've often said that the only people I've ever been completely unable to teach anything are of three kinds:<BR/><BR/>1. Dead people<BR/>2. Unwilling people<BR/>3. People who think they know everything alreadyDJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151596665317012652006-06-29T08:57:00.000-07:002006-06-29T08:57:00.000-07:00Oh, look, Dave -- we've all heard the verse used t...Oh, look, <B>Dave</B> -- we've <I>all</I> heard the verse used that way! Do a Google search, and I'd bet 9 of 10 uses are in that vein.<BR/><BR/>I hope it's sort of a forehead-slapping "D'oh"-experience, though, at least for some. We do need constantly to re-examine our assumptions, and it's those texts that are SO familiar that we have NEVER really studied them, that can turn around and bite us.<BR/><BR/>Bottom-line takeaway for me is always to remain teachable, even on familiar texts. I couldn't begin to tell you the number of times a good study has made me re-examine, then re-think, then re-interpret a text.<BR/><BR/>Learning is a good thing.<BR/><BR/>It's the person who hasn't had to adjust his thinking in the last 87 years that worries me.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1151595976496131942006-06-29T08:46:00.000-07:002006-06-29T08:46:00.000-07:00Dan,Great post and great challenge to us all.For y...Dan,<BR/><BR/>Great post and great challenge to us all.<BR/><BR/>For years I have fought the misuse of this verse, too-- especially with the annual building projects. Thanks for dealing with it as well.<BR/><BR/>-MikeMike Yhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14897602903962464086noreply@blogger.com