tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post115866635791685027..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: "Doomed" evangelism?Phil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1159150863196731512006-09-24T19:21:00.000-07:002006-09-24T19:21:00.000-07:00Excellent article! It so often boils down to the ...Excellent article! It so often boils down to the fact that people repeat the original sin, wanting to be God, or at least like him (Genesis 3:5).<BR/><BR/>We've posted a link at our site<BR/><BR/>Patrick<BR/>Editor-in-Chief, <A HREF="http://ShareYourFaith.org" REL="nofollow">ShareYourFaith.org evangelism</A>Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10070636843509784651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1159070930212921532006-09-23T21:08:00.000-07:002006-09-23T21:08:00.000-07:00Hey, I loved this post. Thank you for sharing. I...Hey, I loved this post. Thank you for sharing. <BR/><BR/>I've linked it <A HREF="http://mcshoo.blogspot.com/2006/09/reading-deeply_23.html" REL="nofollow">here.</A>Mickey Sheuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03956333218040153996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158876350263100612006-09-21T15:05:00.000-07:002006-09-21T15:05:00.000-07:00I sooo needed to hear this after talking to Briggs...I sooo needed to hear this after talking to Briggs & Stratton last night. <BR/><BR/>Thanks.Matt Gummhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698469400042045105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158839482016507542006-09-21T04:51:00.000-07:002006-09-21T04:51:00.000-07:00"God has gone to great lengths to increase His glo..."God has gone to great lengths to increase His glory"<BR/><BR/>This is a deep thought, and a good one.<BR/><BR/>Can God become more than He already eternally is in His glory?<BR/><BR/>I don't think God can add to His glory through having mercy on sinners. It seems to me His glory is eternal and immutable.<BR/>The Cross expresses the glory of the Father's heart. It doesn't add to it.<BR/>The Son's laying down His life for the Father displayed the glory of His grace.<BR/><BR/>God's glory is eternal. And we are honored to manifest this glory in the preaching of the gospel, and in obeying the Word of God in His grace by faith.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158804335729528572006-09-20T19:05:00.000-07:002006-09-20T19:05:00.000-07:00My point is rooted in Exodus 33:22 thru 34:8. In t...My point is rooted in Exodus 33:22 thru 34:8. In that passage, God Himself tells Moses that His <I>glory</I> is going to pass by, and in God's declaration He Himself says, <I>"The LORD, the LORD, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness, keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children's children, to the third and the fourth generation."</I><BR/><BR/>In that declaration, framed in His glory, both His mercy and justice are provisioned. But I think the clear intonation from God's own mouth, indeed the first qualities He utters about Himself, have to do with His mercy, grace, and forgiveness -- not His judgment.<BR/><BR/>God would have been glorifed in utter and immediate judgment of humanity, obviously. But it seems to me that God has gone to great lengths to increase His glory through the extension of mercy on whom He will have mercy. By excercising mercy when He did not have to, He has enabled us to bring Him joyful praise eternally in His kingdom. Moreover, that is a praise not dependent on us, but rather a result of Christ in us.David Mohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05586107161513106957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158801689521219182006-09-20T18:21:00.000-07:002006-09-20T18:21:00.000-07:00it was very helpful thank you. I also just got don...it was very helpful thank you. I also just got done reading the link you put on, and got more great advice on things I have been thinking about. Like why there are different bibles, NKJ NIV etc. My 8 year old asked me the other day at church and I believe I can explain it to her easily now. Thanks.striving...https://www.blogger.com/profile/02396480726008048950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158801044777225612006-09-20T18:10:00.000-07:002006-09-20T18:10:00.000-07:00Oh heavens, Striving, it wasn't a stupid question ...Oh heavens, <B>Striving</B>, it wasn't a stupid question at all. I'm really glad you simply asked, and grateful if I was of some help.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158799833744268882006-09-20T17:50:00.000-07:002006-09-20T17:50:00.000-07:00Please understand I live by no question is a stupi...Please understand I live by no question is a stupid question, and since I have never studied hebrew, I had no clue. Thanks for clearing that up too. I have learned a lot from you this month alone. Cant wait to see what happens next.<BR/><BR/>:)striving...https://www.blogger.com/profile/02396480726008048950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158794838590673242006-09-20T16:27:00.000-07:002006-09-20T16:27:00.000-07:00Another Gem to learn from Terry. ThanksAnother Gem to learn from Terry. ThanksBhedrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091896907803479900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158791493877862592006-09-20T15:31:00.000-07:002006-09-20T15:31:00.000-07:00"He may be glorified by converting our hearer; or ...<EM>"He may be glorified by converting our hearer; or He may be glorified in judgment. But either way, He will be glorified."</EM><BR/><BR/>True. Either way God will be glorified.<BR/><BR/>And beyond that, God's glory is never dependent even on the performance or motives of the evangelist.<BR/><BR/>God will be glorified...period. By our good performance, and by our bad. By our rightly-motivated evangelism, or by our wrongly motivated. By our high volume of evangelistic talk, or by the miserable lack of our evangelism.<BR/><BR/>He deserves our glorifying Him, He even works in us to glorify Him, but His glory never depends on us.<BR/><BR/>And the Catch-22 is that the more we appropriate or understand His sovereign trancendence over our performance, and His astounding love and acceptance of us in spite of our life-long failures, the more our sense of wonder tends to cause us to want to glorify Him.Terry Rayburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00888533194435826837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158786944268293922006-09-20T14:15:00.000-07:002006-09-20T14:15:00.000-07:00breformed,I get what your saying about the harvest...breformed,<BR/><BR/>I get what your saying about the harvest.<BR/><BR/> I disagree that God is more glorified in His mercy than in His judgment. <BR/>I believe everything God wills and purposes to do is perfect, and He will be glorified in His infinite wisdom and justice, just the same as He will be in his mercy and forgiveness.<BR/><BR/>Surely the greatest glory we see is a sinner saved from his sins, and from eternal damnation.<BR/>I agree from our perspective this seems to more glory for God.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158777282937337142006-09-20T11:34:00.000-07:002006-09-20T11:34:00.000-07:00I would like to add the observation that Jonah was...I would like to add the observation that Jonah was <I>not</I> sent to hardened hearts and he was <I>still</I> unwilling to go.<BR/><BR/>The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. I wonder sometimes if there are too many Christians content to write-off people that <I>they</I> perceive to be permanently hardened in their hearts. I am one of those from time to time.<BR/><BR/>The quip <I>"He may be glorified by converting our hearer; or He may be glorified in judgment. But either way, He will be glorified."</I> should be juxtaposed next to Jonah 4:11. God desires the former as opposed to the latter, and the fact that the angels in heaven rejoice over one saved soul is evidence of a greater glory in conversion than in judgment.<BR/><BR/>We might learn to pray more as Abraham did for Sodom. If we cannot, then we must wonder about our own hard-heartedness.David Mohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05586107161513106957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158758707120972552006-09-20T06:25:00.000-07:002006-09-20T06:25:00.000-07:00Yehwah, why Yehwah?It's risky, getting me started ...<I>Yehwah, why Yehwah?</I><BR/><BR/>It's risky, getting me started on this.<BR/><BR/>The short answers are:<BR/><BR/>1. "Yahweh," not "Yehwah."<BR/><BR/>2. Because that is the name of God used over 6800 times in the inspired Hebrew, though superstitiously obscured for no good reason by every modern major translation by "LORD" or "GOD."<BR/><BR/>3. See further <A HREF="http://www.bibchr.com/hbs.html" REL="nofollow"> HERE</A>, question 7.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158756801865001952006-09-20T05:53:00.000-07:002006-09-20T05:53:00.000-07:00Just one more thing, "Moses and Aaron thro down?" ...Just one more thing, "Moses and Aaron thro down?" cute!striving...https://www.blogger.com/profile/02396480726008048950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158756659386399972006-09-20T05:50:00.000-07:002006-09-20T05:50:00.000-07:00It is a great post. I remember when I read this pa...It is a great post. I remember when I read this part of the bible. I was questioning just this. Why would God harden phroahs heart, why didn't he just turn his heart. It is wonderful to read your post. Again I have another question for my pastor. He is going to be very curious, normally I do not ask much, I am a listener. (i.e. Yehwah, why Yehwah? what does that mean?)striving...https://www.blogger.com/profile/02396480726008048950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158756593595732632006-09-20T05:49:00.000-07:002006-09-20T05:49:00.000-07:00(it is getting embarrassing how often I link to yo...(it is getting embarrassing how often I link to your posts)4givenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16604421713579961024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158725585749204182006-09-19T21:13:00.000-07:002006-09-19T21:13:00.000-07:00Great post. I don't always agree with everything w...Great post. I don't always agree with everything written on the Team Pyto blog but I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly here.emmzeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16890906596361712543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158754936658615272006-09-20T05:22:00.000-07:002006-09-20T05:22:00.000-07:00Dear brother: Amen. What truth it is that God's so...Dear brother: Amen. What truth it is that God's sovereignty and glory are not only our highest good, but the entire purpose for the existence of all things.<BR/><BR/>I have been saying for years that the SAME glory of Christ's coming on the last day will be:<BR/><BR/>1)The greatest joy of the Christian<BR/>2)Abject terror and doom for the unsaved.<BR/><BR/>It's the SAME light, power, Word, majesty and fire that flow out of our coming King. It has its one effect on the redeemed, and another effect altogether on the reprobate. Praise God that there IS a remnant saved by His great sovereign grace.<BR/><BR/>vjxrsswo, for the record.SFBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15754910013380395163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158721003724506762006-09-19T19:56:00.000-07:002006-09-19T19:56:00.000-07:00>Brief aside: you'll notice that this is what driv...>Brief aside: you'll notice that this is what drives unbelievers absolutely nuts. All the specific carpings and whinings and scoffing and mocking and verbal pouts boil down to this: they just really hate God being God.<<BR/><BR/>Amen and again I say amen.<BR/><BR/>Remember also Dan that the apostle Paul was warned by God that his efforts in Jerusalem would fail by a Prophet. Paul said he was ready to die for God and his brethren. Dont miss the unique nature of that prophecy and Pauls heart. Meditate on it. Some feel Paul was resisting God but I commit it to the mystery of intercession found in Moses praying when God changed his mind. In fact he wept over his brethren who wouldn't believe. Remember that there is a mystery in the Trinity that expresses itself in the God man Jesus within us weeping as He wept over Jeruselum.<BR/><BR/>But as you say, we must first accept Gods glory and that He will one day have the last word and His name will be glorified that indeed makes everyone who will not believe indignant. That is where our Soteriology must start with the Glory of God and the fact that he alone chooses and regenerates. The wind blows where it wills and it is not of Him that willeth.Bhedrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091896907803479900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158696060051279032006-09-19T13:01:00.000-07:002006-09-19T13:01:00.000-07:00"Thirty Days to Miserable Failure"c'mon dan, haven..."Thirty Days to Miserable Failure"<BR/><BR/>c'mon dan, haven't you noticed...anytime God wants to work, He does it in FORTY days!!!!<BR/><BR/>actually, this was once again a very timely post. (have you figured out a way to read my mind?) i've just recently been scolded that i don't care enough about people because i don't focus enough on results.<BR/><BR/>thanks for keeping my eyes directed on Whom they belong.danny2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13010556674654842010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158695872255381072006-09-19T12:57:00.000-07:002006-09-19T12:57:00.000-07:00Thanks for confirming my message this week! I bega...Thanks for confirming my message this week! I began with Ps. 46:10, emphasizing the "I will be exalted" statements. <BR/><BR/>Amen, brother!Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09751681838914706341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158691596146698062006-09-19T11:46:00.001-07:002006-09-19T11:46:00.001-07:00Right on.Right on.Sharad Yadavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12150204571738424517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158691577149531202006-09-19T11:46:00.000-07:002006-09-19T11:46:00.000-07:00Yup DJP you beat me to my favorite Jeremiah.Well, ...<I>Yup DJP you beat me to my favorite Jeremiah.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, Lee, I couldn't put that in the post.<BR/><BR/>Didn't want anyone to have to say it was VERY LONG, or anything.<BR/><BR/>(c;DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158689538999521082006-09-19T11:12:00.000-07:002006-09-19T11:12:00.000-07:00Rocking post Dan. Thanks for the great insight. I'...Rocking post Dan. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the great insight. I've read that passage several times and this never jumped at me... <BR/><BR/>God bless,<BR/><BR/>DanielDaniel Portelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773421593795741532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1158688904769748562006-09-19T11:01:00.000-07:002006-09-19T11:01:00.000-07:00Yup DJP you beat me to my favorite Jeremiah.What a...Yup DJP you beat me to my favorite Jeremiah.<BR/><BR/>What a failure he would have been if his ministry were results oriented instead of obedience oriented. Instead he was victoriously used through his obedience.<BR/><BR/>I'm so often like my five year old when it comes to obedience. "You want me to do that? BUT that wont work!" <BR/><BR/>I need to remember what I try to teach her in those situations. "Don't you worry about whether it will work or not, your job is to hear and obey, I'll take care of the rest."<BR/><BR/>God is far more capable of "Taking care of the rest" than I am.LeeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540608568274871363noreply@blogger.com