tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post1180940835567211743..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: From 2008: that troublemaker JesusPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-5680804729279583932010-09-30T13:25:09.865-07:002010-09-30T13:25:09.865-07:00Dear evangelicalcalvinist.com:
You said: Mary Eli...Dear evangelicalcalvinist.com:<br /><br />You said: Mary Elizabeth,<br /><br />Why do you think mocking someone is funny and silly?<br /><br />This blog ain't worth the time!<br /><br />Peace out.<br /><br />Mary said: I was not mocking anyone. I just know how Dan Phillips likes to come up with silly words from time to time. It sorta helps make things a bit lighter. Right?<br /><br />I was laughing at the silly name Von Krokenhufffffffur, nothing else. <br /><br />I feel bad you do not think this blog is worth your time. I find Phil, Frank and Dan very, very interesting, and have learned a great deal from reading this blog.<br /><br />I don't come here to have harsh words with anyone. So peace to you, as well. <br /><br /><br />God bless you,<br />MaryMary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-32345042363404373952010-09-30T13:01:20.662-07:002010-09-30T13:01:20.662-07:00troo dattroo datDJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-13344538999062575882010-09-30T12:52:15.967-07:002010-09-30T12:52:15.967-07:00DJP -
I'm shocked that you would use the wor...DJP - <br /><br />I'm shocked that you would use the word "insegrevianist" on what I presumed was a family website.<br /><br />You, sir, are nothing less than a neologistic sesquipedalianist.jmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164857192077648887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-28487091946209491782010-09-30T12:32:58.136-07:002010-09-30T12:32:58.136-07:00Mary Elizabeth,
Why do you think mocking someone ...Mary Elizabeth,<br /><br />Why do you think mocking someone is funny and silly?<br /><br />This blog ain't worth the time!<br /><br />Peace out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-26092974284286065662010-09-30T12:31:48.026-07:002010-09-30T12:31:48.026-07:00DJP,
I agree with MET. Too funny!
I read EC'...DJP, <br />I agree with MET. Too funny!<br />I read EC's post and rolled my eyes about a third of the way down before coming to the all-too common blog response of "Too Long, Didn't Read!"<br /><br />But I like yours better.Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623318488973342836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-17888353905865003822010-09-30T06:49:13.665-07:002010-09-30T06:49:13.665-07:00Hi Steve B:
You are so right, Steve, sometimes I ...Hi Steve B:<br /><br />You are so right, Steve, sometimes I think things go without saying in Christian circles (meaning that I think most Christian's understand this).<br /><br />It "IS" because of my love for God that changed my "attitude" about wanting to clean her house, or do anything in service for Him. <br /><br />Before I became a Christian, I did everything out of a sense of duty, and for my own glory. Since coming to Christ, He is now the impetus for all that I do, and He gets all the glory. My mother just reaps the benefit of my love for God. I assume it is that way for most Christian's. <br /><br />O.K., enough talk of my mother's house. I used it as an example and it looks like boasting, now. <br /><br />God bless you, Steve,<br />Mary :)<br /><br /><br />I'm still laughing about Von Kronkenhuffner, silly Dan Phillips. Too funny!Mary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-16070359888109876072010-09-30T06:45:15.317-07:002010-09-30T06:45:15.317-07:00MET - ...I googled Von Kronkenhuffner, and found n...MET - <i>...I googled Von Kronkenhuffner, and found nothing. Is this person for real? If not, too funny!</i><br /><br />(c;DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-40777484390649929442010-09-30T06:43:05.027-07:002010-09-30T06:43:05.027-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-54919541360724471192010-09-30T03:40:33.017-07:002010-09-30T03:40:33.017-07:00Mary/Daryl,
Isn't the more operative question...Mary/Daryl,<br /><br />Isn't the more operative question, do I clean my mom's house because I love her...<br /><br />Or because I love God?<br /><br />Acts of service made in the service of God are made of our love for HIM, regardless of how we sometimes "feel" about the recipient of the act.<br /><br />How we may or may not feel towards the person is immaterial to the "nobility" of the act. If you resent "having" to clean your mom's house (just as an example), then the error is not in your attitutde towards you mom/friend/co-worker, but in your attitude about your willing obedience to God's call to be servant-hearted.<br /><br />I guess my view would be that if you can't do it willingly, then don't do it. But examine deeply WHY you are unwilling, and to WHO you are accountable for the attitude.<br /><br />We don't do these things so that people will feel thankful or greatful to US, but rather, that they will feel thankful that God has such servants in his employ!<br /><br />Yes?Steve Bervenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02137453259611119361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-73898297360081378172010-09-29T23:30:36.778-07:002010-09-29T23:30:36.778-07:00Let Jesus Christ be exalted in my body, if by life...Let Jesus Christ be exalted in my body, if by life or by death.thomas4881https://www.blogger.com/profile/16839685480671937969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-34838623918042763942010-09-29T22:14:54.504-07:002010-09-29T22:14:54.504-07:00I’m jumping in here, far too late, but.
Does grat...I’m jumping in here, far too late, but. <br />Does gratitude not require faith in Christ, is God’s gift of faith not the root out of witch gratitude grows. We have gratitude because we believe in Christ and what He has done. As our knowledge grows, being instructed by His word our eyes open and we see ourselves how we truly are and how He is changing us which leads to more gratitude.<br />Our life experiences open our eyes to His providence and love for us even in diffuclt times, this also grows our gratitude.<br />I think, just maybe gratitude is not the reason we love God more, trust Him more but that gratitude is the natural fruit of a faithful life empowered by God. His revelation to us, changes us and we see it and this leads to gratitude which leads to actions by us through His enablement, which leads to more growthThomas Louwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08406486510590654502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-75247501642257073492010-09-29T21:52:03.410-07:002010-09-29T21:52:03.410-07:00"...love of God is the will to do what please..."...love of God is the will to do what pleases him, gives him glory, and spreads his kingdom." -natur<br /><br />And it's having heartfelt affection for Christ, my Savior, whom I love, and have not seen. 1 Peter 1:8<br /><br />His grace is incredible.<br /><br />I love Him. However, it's only because He first loved me.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-81145792047972087372010-09-29T21:32:06.964-07:002010-09-29T21:32:06.964-07:00Frank,
I read it. Give me a chance . . .
You lai...Frank,<br /><br />I read it. Give me a chance . . .<br /><br />You laid out a challenge a while ago --- to anyone who would respond --- you said you would debate any 'non-Calvinist' at your debate blog. You never responded to my requests then; so who's being disingenous here. I'm serious, Frank, I don't see this as a game . . . it's definitely not a "Bible study" here either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-60767066109637313042010-09-29T20:42:59.057-07:002010-09-29T20:42:59.057-07:00Concerning grudging obedience — see Matthew 21:28-...Concerning grudging obedience — see Matthew 21:28-31. Jesus is using the distinction to illustrate a point about entering the Kingdom, but I think the parable works because reluctant obedience is still obedience.<br /><br />As for obeying out of love, I think in this context love of God (or neighbor) isn't a matter of emotion or feeling, but of the will. Love of neighbor is the will that the neighbor have what is good and to do what is for his ultimate good (as illustrated in the parable of the sheep and the goats at the final judgment), and love of God is the will to do what pleases him, gives him glory, and spreads his kingdom.naturgesetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15268507379933286863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-77491342897093520112010-09-29T20:33:08.038-07:002010-09-29T20:33:08.038-07:00DJP:
Sorry, I have to ask a stupid question. I k...DJP:<br /><br />Sorry, I have to ask a stupid question. I know you have a great fondness for making up words, but I googled Von Kronkenhuffner, and found nothing. Is this person for real? If not, too funny!Mary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-44724824628172106482010-09-29T20:07:23.937-07:002010-09-29T20:07:23.937-07:00Come come, Frank; if you were simply familiar with...Come come, Frank; if you were simply familiar with the collected works of von Kronkenhuffner, all would be pellucid to you.<br /><br />Hit the books, man! Don't be such an Insegrevianist! What is this -- a Bible study?DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-66288054754991325732010-09-29T19:54:57.316-07:002010-09-29T19:54:57.316-07:00EC:
I'd respond to you, but you obviously did...EC:<br /><br />I'd respond to you, but you obviously didn't read this post. Why should I believe you'd read my response to you -- let alone respond to it fairly or even in some way which would be meaningful?FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-29979085406386021982010-09-29T19:54:25.925-07:002010-09-29T19:54:25.925-07:00Mike,
No fear. If there's one thing trying to...Mike,<br /><br />No fear. If there's one thing trying to think Biblically has done, is clarified what all people are like.<br /><br />Even you...:)<br /><br />There's always a gap between how we talk about what should be, and what actually is.<br /><br />I guess that would be one way that God is the God of the gaps...<br /><br />Groan...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-22993016803321608772010-09-29T19:53:52.272-07:002010-09-29T19:53:52.272-07:00Smart seminary student is right, Daryl. I just fo...Smart seminary student is right, Daryl. I just found Mike's blog the other day and am very impressed. I love it because he deals primarily with Christ-centered issues. <br /><br />Btw, I actually do clean my mother's house, she is 84 and almost blind, and I admit, I do not always feel JOYFUL about it. But I can honestly say that I have made a huge leap from feeling obligated to, to doing it for her benefit. My flesh still struggles though, and will continue to do so until Christ returns. <br /><br />I'm reading your articles, Mike. AWESOME!Mary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-40042140823134655282010-09-29T19:36:25.272-07:002010-09-29T19:36:25.272-07:00And so what often happens is that I obey, all the ...<i>And so what often happens is that I obey, all the while repenting of my non-feelingness and asking that He help me be more grateful</i>.<br /><br />Amen, Daryl. Me too. I'd hate to give the impression that because I speak about these things objectively that I always obey fully and with joyful zeal. Alas, the flesh remains. Let us run the race with endurance, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.Mike Riccardihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748453197783538367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-66091577517533572472010-09-29T19:32:54.398-07:002010-09-29T19:32:54.398-07:00Of course, the problem I have with Piper's sot...Of course, the problem I have with Piper's soteriology is that its informed by Puritan or Precianist categories. <br /><br />It offers a 'reflexive view of faith' which asks me to look at myself (and good works) before I can look at the one behind those good works, Jesus Christ. Of course historically this kind of thinking was only compounded by problems like 'temporary faith' and 'prepratory faith'. I can't find anywhere, in Scripture, where this kind of 'experimental predestinarianism' is presented.<br /><br />Here's a description of the kind of informing theology that provides Piper with his interpretive conclusions:<br /><br /><em>"English penitential teaching expressly echoed and bolstered moral priorities. In contrast, again, to Luther, whose penitential teaching stressed the rueful sinner’s attainment of peace through acknowledgment of fault and trust in unconditional pardon, several of the English included a moment of moral renewal. In harmony with Reformed tendencies on the Continent and in unmistakable continuity with historic Catholic doctrine that tied “contrition, by definition, to the intention to amend,” they required an actual change in penitent. For them, a renewal of moral resolve was integral to the penitential experience, and a few included the manifest alteration of behavior. They agreed that moral will or effort cannot merit forgiveness, yet rang variations on the theme that repentance is “an inward . . . sorrow . . . whereunto is also added a . . . desire . . . to frame our life in all points according to the holy will of God expressed in the divine scriptures.” However qualified by reference to the divine initiative and by denial of efficacy to human works, such teaching underscored moral responsibility; it also adumbrated Puritan penitential and preparationist teaching of later decades." [italics mine] (Theodore Dwight Bozeman, “The Precisianist Strain . . . ,” 20-21)</em><br /><br />Anyway, I know folks will disagree with me here; but on what basis I'm not sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-5774570883932202032010-09-29T19:28:42.888-07:002010-09-29T19:28:42.888-07:00Mike,
I bet Rob is talking about the fear of God....Mike,<br /><br />I bet Rob is talking about the fear of God.<br /><br />I don't think anything drives that out. I'd be worried if it did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-17243198188171495392010-09-29T19:27:56.590-07:002010-09-29T19:27:56.590-07:00Mr. Riccardi and Mary,
I just realized something....Mr. Riccardi and Mary,<br /><br />I just realized something...I missed that word "begrudgingly".<br /><br />I dunno how I missed it, but I did. And it changes everything.<br /><br />I struggle with feeling obligated. I really do. I've always felt it and pushed against it. So, as you read in my earlier comment, I've learned to obey when I don't feel much gratitude.<br /><br />Having said that. The begrudging thing is huge. Massive. And I agree. To obey grudgingly is not to obey.<br /><br />I am ready to do my obligation when I don't feel anything. But I really do recognize that I even when I feel nothing, I need to be reminding myself that feelings or no, God deserves my all.<br /><br />I mean He really does deserve it. <br /><br />And so what often happens is that I obey, all the while repenting of my non-feelingness and asking that He help me be more grateful.<br /><br />All that to say, I agree with you both. And when I factor in the begrudging bit, I disagree with what I wrote earlier...<br /><br />See Mary. All we really needed is a really smart teacher/seminary student to lay it out, and it all makes sense, and we understand each other...<br /><br />Thanks Mike. Really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-58707241130326562972010-09-29T19:10:55.958-07:002010-09-29T19:10:55.958-07:00Wonderful comments, Mike R.
Also, think about thi...Wonderful comments, Mike R.<br /><br />Also, think about this. “If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing” (I Corinthians 13:3).P<br /><br />Paul says here that any religious work done without a true motive of love is like doing nothing.<br /><br />The motivating factor is love, not gratitude.Mary Elizabeth Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915438088186414796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-11437949379646517372010-09-29T19:07:13.631-07:002010-09-29T19:07:13.631-07:00Sorry, Rob, but doesn't love cast out fear?Sorry, Rob, but doesn't love cast out fear?Mike Riccardihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748453197783538367noreply@blogger.com