tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post1572124108477030156..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: The suffering dodge (NEXT! #22)Phil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-6247378962638838632010-04-11T20:08:21.083-07:002010-04-11T20:08:21.083-07:00Thanks, Jacob. They come as inspiration comes.Thanks, Jacob. They come as inspiration comes.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-89559333042810918842010-04-11T18:59:45.745-07:002010-04-11T18:59:45.745-07:00Dan - I was cleaning out old bookmarks and clicked...Dan - I was cleaning out old bookmarks and clicked one I'd created sometime last year for the NEXT! series. I was thrilled to see the series continues! Thank you for continuing to post these!Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084189036334133951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-59386067643605370762010-04-09T11:21:14.383-07:002010-04-09T11:21:14.383-07:00Bobby:
I would urge you to reconsider the last se...Bobby:<br /><br />I would urge you to reconsider the last sentence in your last comment:<br /><br />"Suffering isn't necessary for God's grace to be displayed."<br /><br />God's grace is made most manifest in the death of Christ for our sins, which necessitated the temporary suffering of the Son for the eternal glory of the Father and the Son.<br /><br />And grace is by definition the gift of something undeserved, unmerited, unearned. We would not know what grace is if we were not living in a world of suffering, enslaved to our own sin, under the wrath of God, and groaning for our deliverance.Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-17382622216483814972010-04-09T00:16:27.133-07:002010-04-09T00:16:27.133-07:00Stefan,
Shouldn't it be the other way around;...Stefan,<br /><br />Shouldn't it be the other way around; without grace there would be no cross? In other words, suffering/sin doesn't predicate grace; but God's grace shapes suffering and sin through the cross-work. I.e. suffering isn't necessary for God's grace to be displayed.Bobby Growhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06831009618873548948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-65628599843742840672010-04-09T00:08:07.341-07:002010-04-09T00:08:07.341-07:00I guess it depends on who you are. As far as suffe...I guess it depends on who you are. As far as suffering, and so little of it. There are plenty of folks who are suffering terribly right now --- I know, personally --- could there be more (or should)? Yes, but that's only if our God was not a God of mercy.Bobby Growhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06831009618873548948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-9139802190647091132010-04-08T23:08:21.996-07:002010-04-08T23:08:21.996-07:00Without suffering, there could be no Cross. Witho...Without suffering, there could be no Cross. Without the Cross, there could be no grace.<br /><br />...To paraphrase John Piper, in a sermon he gave at our church tonight.Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-33682269743009988992010-04-08T21:48:44.677-07:002010-04-08T21:48:44.677-07:00Since when did an Atheist have a moral concern abo...Since when did an Atheist have a moral concern about suffering?philnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393311811604119321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-24035551488391039122010-04-08T21:42:49.387-07:002010-04-08T21:42:49.387-07:00Kudos Dan. That one made me snicker and giggle des...Kudos Dan. That one made me snicker and giggle despite myself. Definitely a touche that I'll remember and put to use. Thanks.SLWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260137021205685080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-51063807760324379262010-04-08T20:02:59.310-07:002010-04-08T20:02:59.310-07:00No lo creo.No lo creo.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-38519355321206992662010-04-08T19:58:38.801-07:002010-04-08T19:58:38.801-07:00I'm kinda slow sometimes...actually most of th...I'm kinda slow sometimes...actually most of the times :PMoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385067178930906667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-440668593202596712010-04-08T19:50:47.199-07:002010-04-08T19:50:47.199-07:00Interesting that the star-ratings don't reflec...Interesting that the star-ratings don't reflect the comments. Anyone else suspect ballot-stuffing?DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-28255784113527746672010-04-08T19:28:09.266-07:002010-04-08T19:28:09.266-07:00herding grasshoppers, do you see how little I reme...herding grasshoppers, do you see how little I remember from my homeschooling days?Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15285043747501470199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-5300778380179015332010-04-08T18:34:51.797-07:002010-04-08T18:34:51.797-07:00Ay, Ritacita, tan abstraĆda estas! De que estas pe...Ay, Ritacita, tan abstraĆda estas! De que estas pensando?<br /><br />(c:DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-47903258443075706402010-04-08T18:02:02.624-07:002010-04-08T18:02:02.624-07:00it took me like 10 seconds and clicking the second...it took me like 10 seconds and clicking the second link to get it :PMoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385067178930906667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-64885036987126899532010-04-08T16:32:23.972-07:002010-04-08T16:32:23.972-07:00Or in "either" or "neither."Or in "either" or "neither."Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-46687354855303285842010-04-08T14:45:37.912-07:002010-04-08T14:45:37.912-07:00It's
i before e
except after c
or when sounde...It's<br /><br />i before e<br />except after c<br />or when sounded as "a"<br />as in neighbor or weigh<br /><br />or when you're being <i>weird</i>Herding Grasshoppershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15668974245505544238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-85639534750048421022010-04-08T14:31:53.677-07:002010-04-08T14:31:53.677-07:00"I'm all about cutting out the blahblahbl...<i>"I'm all about cutting out the blahblahblah."</i><br /><br />That's what you do Dan and not many do it better. That must be what that sword you are holding is for.David Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17709270641017787218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-10538713636358981982010-04-08T14:05:45.126-07:002010-04-08T14:05:45.126-07:00I recall an atheist said to me, "I'm so t...I recall an atheist said to me, "I'm so thankful for X good things in my life"<br /><br />I said "Thankful to WHOM?"<br /><br />Startled by the implications of that, the dodges began. <br /><br />Romans 1;18-21 <br /><br />Further to this...so, for example, the earthquake in Haiti could have been so much worse, God was being merciful by limiting the destruction to the thousands that died, given our common sinfulness, so that compared to the full wrath of God that will be poured out upon the wicked, that was very little. <br /><br />Now I could see how that could strike some fear into people, when they consider how much worse things could be.Pierre Saikaleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409964448078910855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-72768340317611495342010-04-08T12:52:22.839-07:002010-04-08T12:52:22.839-07:00Man! I love this particular "Next".
Kee...Man! I love this particular "Next".<br /><br />Keep'em coming Big Dan!Rick Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12525495561013100331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-7240302193255539812010-04-08T11:58:35.623-07:002010-04-08T11:58:35.623-07:00and also after "c."and also after "c."CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-43386545891852029492010-04-08T11:52:37.882-07:002010-04-08T11:52:37.882-07:00I before e, except in neighborhood and weigh. And...I before e, except in neighborhood and weigh. And atheist.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15285043747501470199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-55418448363453649042010-04-08T11:50:46.140-07:002010-04-08T11:50:46.140-07:00Sir Aaron beat me to it...
you can only use logic...Sir Aaron beat me to it...<br /><br /><i>you can only use logic with people who... use logic</i>.<br /><br />I can just picture the momentarily baffled look your response would provoke... before the whining commences.<br /><br />Good one, Dan!<br /><br />Everybody thinks they want justice, but we don't really. I want grace. Praise the Lord!Herding Grasshoppershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15668974245505544238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-8077068250951929222010-04-08T11:50:41.345-07:002010-04-08T11:50:41.345-07:00Yeah, if only I could stop typing atheist wrong. I...Yeah, if only I could stop typing atheist wrong. It's one word the iPhone doesn't autocorrect.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15285043747501470199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-80330384305134556632010-04-08T11:26:09.249-07:002010-04-08T11:26:09.249-07:00If you haven't already, click on the word NEXT...If you haven't already, click on the word NEXT in the post. Takes you back to the first post, which explains their purpose.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-57633163225439401302010-04-08T11:17:50.884-07:002010-04-08T11:17:50.884-07:00"Debating an Athiest is like debating a three...<i>"Debating an Athiest is like debating a three year old. You can use logic only up until they start making things up or throwing a temper tantrum."</i><br /><br />Point taken; that is usually where it ends up.<br /><br />I guess I still haven't really caught onto the disentangling nature of the "NEXT!" posts. -_-Mr. Fosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17652392944938128012noreply@blogger.com