tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post3188932193784934122..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Play to your strengths, but challenge your weaknessesPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-31271078948892794502012-01-18T06:18:35.079-08:002012-01-18T06:18:35.079-08:00You
ROCKYou<br /><br />ROCKDJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-66953433563347915712012-01-18T06:17:21.106-08:002012-01-18T06:17:21.106-08:00So now — all sorts of people have been calling for...<b><i>So now — all sorts of people have been calling for books like what this aims at being. How do we get the "secret" out?</i></b><br /><br />I've started a study of your book with some people from my church. The review of the first chapter went really well and there was plenty of input from everybody (even our children who drew a couple of pictures of a dog returning to its vomit). Everybody likes the book so far and we'll be going over the second chapter this Friday. My hope is that everybody in the group will enjoy the book and gain much from this study, then pass it along to others that they know.<br /><br />So, I'd say that people should try to organize studies like these and as people learn more from the book, they can pass it along and maybe spur on other group studies of the book. It helps that the author writes in a style that is easy to read for most everybody while still providing the necessary depth for the subject involved.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987985549747283669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-20543642541491865682012-01-17T16:25:39.378-08:002012-01-17T16:25:39.378-08:00Big grin here, Raine. Thanks very much.
So now — ...Big grin here, Raine. Thanks <i>very</i> much.<br /><br />So now — all sorts of people have been calling for books like what this aims at being. How do we get the "secret" out?DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-4402937927153648592012-01-17T16:22:56.243-08:002012-01-17T16:22:56.243-08:00Actually, Dan, I bought your book on Proverbs prec...Actually, Dan, I bought your book on Proverbs precisely because Proverbs was one of the least attractive books in the Bible to me. But I wholeheartedly confess that you have made the overall theme of the book crystal clear (Proverbs is Solomon's book on the fear of Yahweh that he wrote to instruct his child in obedience to Deut. 6), and as I grasped it, it became much more riveting to study.<br /><br />So I can personally testify that challenging your weaknesses is rewarding! :)Rainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03675526554252850722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-32348301090673186932012-01-17T15:14:15.960-08:002012-01-17T15:14:15.960-08:00well, God uses my son as my greatest theology less...well, God uses my son as my greatest theology lessons to show me my weaknesses that's for sure. he really keeps me challenged<br /><br />our weaknesses are where Christ shines the most. Didn't Paul say God's power is made perfect in weakness. Takes that independence away so we depend on him. <br /><br />I've worked with many people who could do better in life but no one ever really challenged them~~Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09418337100329537312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-27606671183494420212012-01-17T12:06:16.268-08:002012-01-17T12:06:16.268-08:00Dan:
Good post! It is funny that you mentioned al...Dan:<br /><br />Good post! It is funny that you mentioned all of this because that is exactly what I have done with my blog. I decided to pick topics that will help me grow and step out of my comfort zone a little by digging in and studying, reading, listening to sermons, etc. until I have the topic so thoroughly grasped that I can then blog about it. It has been a wonderful help in my life recently. Good thinking!Jared T. Baergenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934502836422481775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-70996832108820985402012-01-17T10:41:31.927-08:002012-01-17T10:41:31.927-08:00And then you have pastors like Apollos that were e...And then you have pastors like Apollos that were eloquent, mighty in scriptures, feverant in spirit, and "instructed in the way of the Lord" and you still have to pull them to the side and show them the way of God more perfectly (Acts 18:24-28 KJV). Because with all their intense study of the scripture they just still are not getting it.<br /><br /> And like Paul who set at the feet of Gamielial and intensily studied the books of Moses, all the major and minor prophets, the Psalms and proverbs and still came to the conclusion that the Gospel was heresy and the Church must be destroyed. With all Paul's OT and Hebrew studies he still never saw Jesus as the Messiah until his spiritual conversion. <br /><br /> Studying of scripture is great and should be encouraged, but in these examples, both Apollos and Paul also studied diligently and still missed something. Could anything else have been added to their or our scriptural studies that would have helped them in their full and correct understanding of the gospel, or in these examples were Paul and Apollos just negligent in their studies of the scriptures and should have tried harder? <br /><br /> What if Jesus as the Messiah was divinly hidden from men in the Old Testament (Ephesians 3:1-9 KJV)? If left alone with OT scripture, could Paul's more intense and diligent study of the Old Testament cannon have eventually overcome this divine blockage and convinced him to embrace Jesus as the Messiah without the necessity of his spiritual conversion?<br /><br />F WhittenburgF Whittenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01604292281555282318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-91847032584694995302012-01-17T07:48:30.666-08:002012-01-17T07:48:30.666-08:00Troo dat, sister.Troo dat, sister.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-42360345234633722482012-01-17T07:38:09.902-08:002012-01-17T07:38:09.902-08:00This post...not just for pastors :)This post...not just for pastors :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-42666779987900860972012-01-17T07:34:17.911-08:002012-01-17T07:34:17.911-08:00Thanks, Tom. As always, your comment is value-adde...Thanks, Tom. As always, your comment is value-added, and I totally agree. I tried to be clear that I'm talking about tasks within the area of Divinely-mandated responsibilities, and I appreciate the stress and clarification.<br /><br />For instance, as to the future for me: I've never preached through a Synoptic Gospel. Some find them easy, I find them harder. John was less so, and I preached through it. So what do you think I have on my list of Things to Do when and if I get a pastorate? Ditto prophetic books such as Isaiah or Jeremiah; ditto Proverbs.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-34829994931268642282012-01-17T07:19:38.736-08:002012-01-17T07:19:38.736-08:00When I was a pastoral intern an elder in the churc...When I was a pastoral intern an elder in the church who was also a business owner talked to me about the concept of turning your weaknesses into strengths. He said it was nothing but motivational nonsense, and that he didn't want his employees wasting time with it. Their weaknesses are weaknesses for a reason. While he needed them to bring their areas of weakness up to a level of competence, he hired them for their strengths and wanted them to put in their greatest effort in those areas. <br /><br />I've thought about it a lot over the years, and I believe it does apply in ministry in just the way Dan wrote here. A preacher is expected to be competent in the Word, and that means stretching himself in every area of the word. At the same time, the preacher's strengths are actually gifts given him by God for the benefit of the church, and he ought to put maximum effort into utilizing them accordingly.<br /><br />Two thoughts I had, neither by way of contradiction.<br /><br />First, many pastors have multiple opportunities to preach, teach and study. It is possible to follow Dan's advice by studying diligently in a difficult area in order to teach a Bible study, or to preach at a midweek or evening service. In this way he is still stretching himself and increasing his range while playing to his strengths in whatever service (usually Sunday morning) at which there are likely to be visitors and even unconverted persons. Just an encouragement - you don't <i>have</i> to preach through Ezekiel on Sunday mornings to follow Dan's advice.<br /><br />Secondly, a caution: remember that the pastor is operating in a rather different sphere than say the sales manager, and this comes into play when he evaluates strengths and weaknesses. The pastor's job description is written neither by himself nor by the church; it is found - largely - in Scripture. For instance, a man would be making a grave error were he to say, "My strength is in visiting the sick and needy so I'm going to spend the bulk of my time playing to my strength and just try to bring my preaching up to a level of bare competence." The problem with that is that those who preach <i>must</i> "devote [themselves] to the ministry of the word and to prayer." God has said what the priority is, and someone else can help with the rest. This is especially true for lone pastors in small churches. It doesn't override what Dan is saying here; we still ought to maximize our strengths - but to a degree the priorities of our work are passed down from heaven by the Spirit and we have no right to ignore them.Tom Chantryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485908616177111150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-3501355591743045892012-01-17T06:54:47.606-08:002012-01-17T06:54:47.606-08:00Well said, Dan, how important it is for all of us ...Well said, Dan, how important it is for all of us to grow rather than settle in a rut. <br /><br />I'm reading your Proverbs book now (only in the second chapter so far), and it's very good and challenging.Lynda Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755739519555633760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-34578536103754330352012-01-17T06:21:57.913-08:002012-01-17T06:21:57.913-08:00Thanks for the encouragement and words of wisdom. ...Thanks for the encouragement and words of wisdom. May we all follow it well in the new year.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987985549747283669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-43234662402409660122012-01-17T05:32:37.299-08:002012-01-17T05:32:37.299-08:00Good challenge. Made me reflect on Ps. 119, which ...Good challenge. Made me reflect on Ps. 119, which i was reading this morning.<br /><br /> "My soul clings to the dust;<br /> give me life according to your word!"<br />(Psalm 119:25)<br />The Word itself makes us hungry for more of the Word.<br /><br />Thanks for your word this morning.donsandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665794015011057098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-31919708724813586122012-01-17T05:25:34.672-08:002012-01-17T05:25:34.672-08:00Welcome back, Dan. Great thoughts. And for those w...Welcome back, Dan. Great thoughts. And for those who thought that speaking and writing came easy for Spurgeon and not for the rest of us: "I scarcely ever prepare for my pulpit with pleasure: study for the pulpit is for me the most irksome work in the world." I guess that's why it is called "labor" in the Word. 1 Timothy 5:17Kerry James Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06083436735702873300noreply@blogger.com