tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post4461674564551684603..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Keep the faith!Phil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-79994266615083146692008-06-11T05:25:00.000-07:002008-06-11T05:25:00.000-07:00Daryl:That was a joke. But I was not talking abou...Daryl:<BR/><BR/>That was a joke. But I was not talking about me. ;)Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-8044349219255439932008-06-11T05:22:00.000-07:002008-06-11T05:22:00.000-07:00Then stop talking to avoid biting, man. ;)Then stop talking to avoid biting, man. ;)Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-49463838223177185722008-06-11T04:32:00.000-07:002008-06-11T04:32:00.000-07:00Mike,You must not have noticed the huge bulge in m...Mike,<BR/><BR/>You must not have noticed the huge bulge in my cheek, where my tongue was...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-74258621833727264542008-06-11T03:21:00.000-07:002008-06-11T03:21:00.000-07:00Daryl:You mean where it says "The Holy Spirit hims...Daryl:<BR/><BR/><B>You mean where it says "The Holy Spirit himself intercedes for us" it means the Holy Spirit himself intercedes for us?<BR/><BR/>You've got to be kidding. How narrow.<BR/></B><BR/><BR/>Not narrowmindednes, but narrow in scope, in terms of refs available. ;)Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-38874604012114340682008-06-10T19:22:00.000-07:002008-06-10T19:22:00.000-07:00Mike Riccardi,I appreciate your thoroughness bro.W...Mike Riccardi,<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your thoroughness bro.<BR/><BR/>Well written.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-37416118164580160962008-06-10T19:12:00.000-07:002008-06-10T19:12:00.000-07:00Mike,I figured as much...Mike,<BR/><BR/>I figured as much...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-53725194792456485532008-06-10T19:02:00.000-07:002008-06-10T19:02:00.000-07:00daryl:I checked her profile and website.I just did...daryl:<BR/><BR/><B>I checked her profile and website.</B><BR/><BR/>I just did that. My response is: <I>oops.</I><BR/><BR/>But I still like to hear from her, for a reason.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-78036774282126211272008-06-10T14:16:00.000-07:002008-06-10T14:16:00.000-07:00...no prayer that is *not* according to the Name........no prayer that is *not* according to the Name...<BR/><BR/>Sorry about that.Mike Riccardihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748453197783538367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-88138734030816547182008-06-10T14:14:00.000-07:002008-06-10T14:14:00.000-07:00Lilith,It's all been said, but I noticed a lack of...Lilith,<BR/><BR/>It's all been said, but I noticed a lack of Hebrews, both in your reasoning and the response to your nonsense. So here you go...<BR/><BR/><I>For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see "It is <I>now</I> impossible..." Just "It is impossible." Period. <BR/><BR/><I>Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;</I><BR/><BR/>There it is again. Can <I>never</I> take away sins.<BR/><BR/><I>but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins <B>for all time</B>, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET. For by one offering He has perfected <B>for all time</B> those who are sanctified. </I><BR/><BR/>So... unless the OT saints weren't... um... saints... then salvation was always by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone.<BR/><BR/>Bringing it back to prayer, remember we can enter <I>confidently</I> to the throneroom of grace (Heb 4:12ff), but may we never presume that we may enter <I>casually</I>. God is holier than to accept <B><I>anything</I></B> that is not in Christ's name. Therefore, no prayer that is according to the Name, will, and word of Jesus Christ is acceptable to the Father, since only Jesus Christ is acceptable to the Father.Mike Riccardihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06748453197783538367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-6056725191371420822008-06-10T12:16:00.000-07:002008-06-10T12:16:00.000-07:00Mike,"lilith:Are you a Christian?"I checked her pr...Mike,<BR/><BR/>"lilith:<BR/>Are you a Christian?"<BR/><BR/>I checked her profile and website.<BR/><BR/>She'll say yes (I think), the data says no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-86283578971032754502008-06-10T12:13:00.000-07:002008-06-10T12:13:00.000-07:00It's got potential...I'd give it a go if I were yo...It's got potential...I'd give it a go if I were you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-48433063523688241892008-06-10T12:12:00.000-07:002008-06-10T12:12:00.000-07:00It's this little theory I'm playing around with. T...It's this little theory I'm playing around with. Thinking of calling it "grammatico-historical exegesis." What do you think of it? Like it?DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-69163606924121853522008-06-10T12:08:00.000-07:002008-06-10T12:08:00.000-07:00What??? You mean where it says "The Holy Spirit hi...What??? <BR/><BR/>You mean where it says "The Holy Spirit himself intercedes for us" it means the Holy Spirit himself intercedes for us?<BR/><BR/>You've got to be kidding. How narrow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-16472595117899294822008-06-10T11:23:00.000-07:002008-06-10T11:23:00.000-07:00Right. Romans 8:26 makes no mention nor hint or, n...Right. Romans 8:26 makes no mention nor hint or, nor allusion to, the one and only gift of speaking unlearned languages. Nor prophecy. Just the Holy Spirit, interceding for us. <I>Unspoken</I> groans.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-1965775117019430852008-06-10T11:18:00.000-07:002008-06-10T11:18:00.000-07:00djp,there's one gift of prophecy as much as there'...djp,<BR/><BR/>there's one gift of prophecy as much as there's other unitary gifts. But the men in Acts 2 weren't interceding, they were prophesying in other tongues. So this is different than portrayed in Rom 8:26.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-38179648748811801342008-06-10T11:06:00.000-07:002008-06-10T11:06:00.000-07:00lilith:Are you a Christian?lilith:<BR/>Are you a Christian?Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-41033058500219013672008-06-10T10:34:00.000-07:002008-06-10T10:34:00.000-07:00No, there is no Scriptural authority for another m...No, there is no Scriptural authority for another manifestation, any more than two totally different gifts of prophecy. It's just a fabrication invented to cover the failure of the charismatic distraction. It can't produce anything like the Biblical phenomena, so it makes stuff up.<BR/><BR/>Like this.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-2910371255419689952008-06-10T10:32:00.000-07:002008-06-10T10:32:00.000-07:00No, it has nothing to do with that; that's a diffe...No, it has nothing to do with that; that's a different manifestation in Acts 2. However, it was invoked by the Holy Ghost.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-57125305299723856312008-06-10T10:13:00.000-07:002008-06-10T10:13:00.000-07:00There is absolutely no reason to imagine that (A) ...There is <I>absolutely no reason</I> to imagine that (A) intercession, that is (B) performed by the Holy Spirit, and (C) <B>is not spoken</B>, has ANYTHING to do with the supernatural gift of human beings speaking to each other in unlearned languages.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-74366309996622879202008-06-10T10:08:00.000-07:002008-06-10T10:08:00.000-07:00Daryl,it's probably worth noting that the verse in...Daryl,<BR/><BR/><B>it's probably worth noting that the verse in Romans about "groans that cannot be uttered" refers to the Spirit praying, not us.</B><BR/><BR/>You're right, the Spirit does the praying in the spirit, but this does not negate the speaking in tongues in conjunction with this verse. By comparison of scripture against scripture, there is support for it (I am not a cessationist).Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-24375228492988647872008-06-10T09:46:00.000-07:002008-06-10T09:46:00.000-07:00lilith:There is indeed a contradiction across the ...lilith:<BR/><B>There is indeed a contradiction across the OT and NT. In the Old Testament, men were justified by works of law and when they failed, they were forgiven through repeated animal sacrifices. In the New Testament, God's only Son became the one, perfect and final sacrifice for the forgiveness of all sins, and this sanctifying grace is available to all men through faith. The cross was the ultimate intervention and paradigm shift.<BR/></B><BR/>That's no OT/NT contradiction. They support eachj other, interlock each other both in terms of prophecy fullfulment and in types. Every book of the OT points to Christ, as does the NT. The NT is in the OT concealed, the OT is in the NT revealed. Everything pertinent to the OT are types revealed in thwe NT. There's a book on the subject of typology: "Study of the Types" by Ada Habershon; another book "The Miracle of the Scarlet Thread" by Richard Booker.<BR/><BR/>As for the OT law, it was not written for people to keep it. It was written so the OT people will come to realize they cannot keep it (and that's paradoxical, I know). In this way, this leads to Christ and that's how they realized they needed a Messiah.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456884689908680100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-35131111507708999672008-06-10T07:22:00.000-07:002008-06-10T07:22:00.000-07:00The previous post should read - "That Gentiles, wh...The previous post should read - "That Gentiles, who did <B>not</B> pursue righteousness...."<BR/><BR/>Sorry!olan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-30627628114685212532008-06-10T07:19:00.000-07:002008-06-10T07:19:00.000-07:00Lilith: There is indeed a contradiction across the...Lilith: <B>There is indeed a contradiction across the OT and NT. In the Old Testament, men were justified by works of law and when they failed, they were forgiven through repeated animal sacrifices.</B><BR/><BR/>Not true! The N.T. makes it perfectly clear that justification never was and never will be based on works of the law (and so did the O.T.). <BR/><BR/>"<I>What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, even the righteousness <B>which is by faith</B>, but <B>Israel</B>, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. <B>Why</B>? <B>Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works</B></I>..."(Romans 9:30-32).<BR/><BR/>"<I>But now <B>apart from the Law</B> the righteousness of God has been manifested, <B>being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets</B>, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe...</I>" (Romans 3:21-22).<BR/><BR/>Hebrews chapter eleven shows that the O.T. saints were justified by faith not works of the Law.<BR/><BR/>The cross has always been the ultimate intervention. O.T. saints looked by faith to the future concerning the Redeemer. N.T. saints look by faith to the past concerning the Redeemer - Jesus Christ!olan stricklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345193051857763038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-48174075465110829432008-06-10T06:29:00.000-07:002008-06-10T06:29:00.000-07:00Mike: Another thing: since there is no contradicti...Mike: <B>Another thing: since there is no contradiction in the Bible across OT & NT, one can't refer to even an ostensible contradiction to make a case in your theology to prove a non-sequitur ("thus the reformation fails").</B><BR/><BR/>There is indeed a contradiction across the OT and NT. In the Old Testament, men were justified by works of law and when they failed, they were forgiven through repeated animal sacrifices. In the New Testament, God's only Son became the one, perfect and final sacrifice for the forgiveness of all sins, and this sanctifying grace is available to all men through faith. The cross was the ultimate intervention and paradigm shift.Teresitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05528002521904908827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-25436113522226160452008-06-10T05:13:00.000-07:002008-06-10T05:13:00.000-07:00Mike,To piggy back on your comment, it's probably ...Mike,<BR/><BR/>To piggy back on your comment, it's probably worth noting that the verse in Romans about "groans that cannot be uttered" refers to the Spirit praying, not us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com