tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post8931763225407524514..comments2024-03-10T10:40:32.319-07:00Comments on Pyromaniacs: Knowing and Not KnowingPhil Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00649092052031518426noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-81354230243709584242013-05-15T13:49:49.217-07:002013-05-15T13:49:49.217-07:00Trogdor: since you mention it, I think there's...Trogdor: since you mention it, I think there's a very weird slippery slope going in both directions here.<br /><br />From the il-literalist side (the myth peddlers), there's really no telling when to stop saying which text is just "literary truth" without being "historical truth." They protest that this is absurd, but the history of this topic tells us otherwise.<br /><br />But: from our side, we may have something to peddle as well. I think if we can get people who don't believe the Bible at all to read it as a story first and make sense of the narrative as a cogent story, once they understand what the story actually says, they are stuck with a problem. What problem? That the Bible makes more sense of the world than a story ought to. That the story is so pinned on how the world actually works that it can't be a mere story, a mere parable of what we wish the world to be.<br /><br />For the "muthos"-peddlers, the story means a lot less than it says because it is fiction. They downgrade the story and therefore downgrade the message. For us, we can accept the story at face value, and its greater meaning -- its value in any way as the words pointing to the author and His intention -- shines through.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-6379326294808476782013-05-15T12:19:13.624-07:002013-05-15T12:19:13.624-07:00None of this actually happened, but this is what w...None of this actually happened, but this is what we must learn from it - oh, and if you believe it, you may be marked for death.<br /><br />For some reason I don't find this Hilarian epistemology (what difference does it make what actually happened?) convincing.trogdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452996348717802065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-72056720954387221022013-05-15T12:08:49.891-07:002013-05-15T12:08:49.891-07:00You make it sound like there's a problem with ...You make it sound like there's a problem with building a house of truth on a foundation of lies and fantasy.trogdorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452996348717802065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21212024.post-87053120492491644752013-05-15T05:32:39.374-07:002013-05-15T05:32:39.374-07:00"So those who are teaching a different doctri..."So those who are teaching a different doctrine, and teaching myths and endless genealogies, are here impugned by Paul as swerving away from good conscience and swerving from sincere faith"<br /><br />This has always been a stumbling block for me, because I encounter numerous Christians who are dead wrong about a particular topic, but who appear to be sincere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com