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The PDF of my exchange with Dan Edelen, as linked by Monergism.com
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The PyroManiacs devote some space each weekend to highlights from the lifetime of works from the Prince of Preachers, Charles Haddon Spurgeon. The following excerpt is from The Sword and the Trowel, August, 1894, "A life-belt for daily use.""If your persecution were to cease, it might be the worst thing that could happen to you."
Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! [He says] For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.That’s quite a declaration from Jesus. He started with what looked like some sort of opinion poll or a survey of ideas about what it is that was happening as he was going around with these fellows teaching, and he changes the discussion from what everyone is expecting from Jesus to what God Himself is doing, and is about to do, through Jesus.
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?”
[Here] we perceive how great is the weakness of the human mind; for not only is it unable by itself to understand what is right or true, but even out of true principles it creates errors.That is to say this: even in meaning well toward Jesus, and thinking highly of him, men could not know him when they were left to their own devices. As true as it is that it would be wrong to call me or any of the speakers here today a prophet, it is also wrong to call Jesus only a prophet, only some kind of teacher or messenger. That answer actually aims too low.
[Jesus] said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” [and] Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”We have to wonder if Simon knew exactly what he was saying here because of what comes next – which we will get to in a few minutes. But Simon gives what I think we can call a theologically-precise and sound statement. In some of our churches, we might call it a “Sunday school answer” – because it uses all the Sunday school words to say something about Jesus.
And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven."When Christ says this, he is plainly setting Simon’s statement apart from the guesses of “people” in general about who Jesus is. When “people” in general looked at Christ and listened to him, they heard something encouraging – apparently, they heard something they liked. They liked the idea that the oppressors of God’s people like Ahab and his filthy wife Jezebel were going to get theirs, or that if one like Jeremiah had come, Israel would again be returned to the protection of God. That is: people in general were looking to Jesus for something for themselves. They wanted God for themselves, on terms they could understand.
The PyroManiacs devote some space each weekend to highlights from the lifetime of works from the Prince of Preachers, Charles Haddon Spurgeon. The following excerpt is from The Sword and the Trowel, December, 1901, "Unequally yoked together.""Having these cases coming immediately under my own eye, or brought before me...and all of them having turned out badly..."
See: if I say, "well, homosexuality is a sin, Dustin," what Mr. Rowles hears -- and I think he's listening just fine -- is the subtle hint of this outrageous lie: "he actually deserved what he got." I know none of you regular readers of this blog would actually mean that, but the ones who harnessed that conclusion up to the horse of my assertion are the ones who pounded his Dad's face in for being gay -- you know, God hates fags, boy, so I'm going to smash a coke bottle in your face. ...The application from the question of evangelizing homosexuals and the people who love them to evangelizing people who are committed to measuring anything by means of race is this: the problem is that somehow the facts are all interpreted right now toward the interpretation that anyone who is the victim of a cross-racial crime "got what he deserved." Referring to the facts simply sounds, to the people you are talking to, like this statement: "When you think about it, he got what he deserved."
So the problem in talking to Mr. Rowles now is not trying to convince him what the Bible says about (for example) homosexuality. The problem is convincing him that you don't want to bash his father's head in over it. That kind of ferocious evil is what Dustin Rowles associates with the moral affirmation "homosexuality is a sin". My suggestion is that helping him believe what you believe about homosexuality is frankly a stupid gambit.
I ask every person who reads the series of responses at AHA's blog to do 3 things:Also, Steve Hays has posted a note about one aspect of this exchange. I thank him for it as it may be useful to anyone following along.
 read the AHA website (particularly, read the 5 tenents, no compromise, the difference, funding philosophy, and then the following links from ChurchRepent.com: one two three (for "three," browse until you feel like you've had plenty)
 read the 3 blog posts I wrote
 then read AHA's response (I'll link to part 1, and then I'll imagine that you are able to navigate the internet with more finesse than someone from the 1950's if/when the balance of these posts are made)
I am utterly satisfied that any English-speaking reader can decide for himself what to think.
The PyroManiacs devote some space each weekend to highlights from the lifetime of works from the Prince of Preachers, Charles Haddon Spurgeon. The following excerpt is from The New Park Street Pulpit, sermon number 159, "The true Christian's blessedness.""The doctrines of sovereign, distinguishing grace, are the sum and substance of the teaching of the Bible."
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Here Christ begins now to speak of the public office, that is, of the Apostleship, which he dignifies with a twofold title. First, he says that the ministers of the Gospel are porters, so to speak, of the kingdom of heaven, because they carry its keys; and, secondly, he adds, that they are invested with a power of binding and loosing, which is ratified in heaven. ... We know that there is no other way in which the gate of life is opened to us than by the word of God; and hence it follows that the key is placed, as it were, in the hands of the ministers of the word. [Emph Added]
Micah 6:8That is: the tenet here is not that they will use the Bible as a sufficient and infallible authority. If they did, maybe they would have a local church which was overseeing them to make sure they weren't doing things they ought not to be doing, for example. The tenet, rather, is a list of Bible truths which they demand to be taken at face value without further comment:
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