It's been a good long while, so...how about another round of Mystery Quotation? This one goes well with our recent talk of sarkicophobia.
Remember, no tricks—
- Use your memory (or guessing) alone
- No electronic tools
- No Googling
- No murmuring about the "no tricks" rule
- No murmuring about the "no murmuring" rule
A young man, who had been "in fellowship with the brethren," wished to join the church at [omitted]. I knew that they would not grant him a transfer to us, so I wrote to ask if there was anything in his moral character which should prevent us from receiving him. The reply they sent was laconic, but not particularly lucid:—"The man _____ has too much of the flesh." When he called to hear the result of his application, I sent for a yard or two of string, and asked one of our friends to take my measure, and then to take his. As I found that I had much more ‘flesh’ than he had, and as his former associates had nothing else to allege against him, I proposed him for church-membership, and he was in due course accepted.Have at it.
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My first guess (based on size) would have been Chesterton. But he was RC, I believe, and this sounds like a different sort of church hierarchy.
So I'm going with Spurgeon, who could make the stairs creak a bit himself.
At last - one I know! It's Spurgeon, and quoted in the Autobiography - Volume 2, I think.
I agree: Spurgeon. Sounds similar in language structure to the famous cigar stories.
I guess Luther.
Had to be CHS...
Or DL Moody...
No, CHS.
al sends
what my last pastor would say about me.
I'm a bit of a newbie around here, but I know this one. It is Pastor Spurgeon. I only know because I have been compared to him (in girth, not in giftedness!), and I love this quote.
And I believe it might be in vol. 3, not 2, but I'd have to go back and check.
Keep up the fine work, my friends
In my edition of Spurgeon's autobiography, there is no volume 3. I was talking about the Banner of Truth Edition, Vol. 1 The Early Years, Vol. 2 The Full Harvest. 'course, Stateside it may be different.
Doctor Lloyd Jones!
Agonizomai ended up right, and Benfold has the right book, and even knows the page number. See here for context.
Not a hard one, just a fun one, I thought.
I'm going on a diet! That's one way to get rid of some flesh :)
DJP, thanks for the citation link.
I have not had the opportunity to read Spurgeon's biography yet, and this little section was just what I needed to read to set the tone for work today: hard work, but of merry wit :).
Dan,
Is this a way to stir us back to our New Year's resolutions?
Great quote.
And as of this morning I am 2.5 pounds more godly than I was on January 1.
i think it is Spurgeon, but I don't remember reading this in his autobiography.
Spurgeon my favorite fat preacher!
Pure Spurgeon. No mistaking that wit. :D
Gary,
Sorry about that. I have a version in a PDF file and it's in 3 volumes.
It sounds very Spurgeon.
Legendary qoute that one..
I think Spurgeon; it just sounds like him.
Oh...and the comments confirm it. :)
Sounds like Spurgeon's humor. (Really, I didn't cheat. I'm glad to know that I got it right!)
I thought Spurgeon, but then I was thinking twice about the girth thing and for some reason John Haggee came to mind, and then so did Jerry Falwell... but given that Haggee would never say anything like that.... he was down, and the story telling wasn't enough like Falwell.... which left Spurgeon....
and reading the Comments, I got a confirmation of that...
nice to be holier than a lot in this area... as I am skinny if overweight(relative to my height, I'm overweight, but only have a gut that sticks out, not a flop over gut {that is, your stomach flops over your belt})
that said, as I'm wearing shorts and a t-shirt (yes, it's cold outside, but warm inside) I have a lot of skin showing.....
though this quote almost sounded gnostic... or was he telling on the gnosticism of those around him? perhaps that of the other group?
first rule of gnosticism: Flesh bad, spirit good.
Spurgeon. I only had to read the first few words to recognise it. I printed it in a Christian Union magazine when I was in university nearly ten years ago. I know this one very, very well.
I really love Spurgeon, and I really don't think that "model-skinny" is healthy, but I also think that fat pastors ought to put some effort towards getting, well, less FAT! It just doesn't 'fit' (no pun intended) with the biblical image of a disciplined man of God.
I guessed Spurgeon as well, even though I cannot recall reading it, it is ever so typical. His treatment of 'the brethren' was always gentle but searching.
My first guess was Jimmy Carter....you said to be honest. Looks like I'm way off though! Not the first time.
Phil,
I would refer you to the great Puritan John Owen in his book The Mortification of Sin. He talks about how the flesh is our actual body and refers to Romans chapter 7, "deliver me from the body of this death". He teaches that we can have mastery over it (by feeding our spirit on a steady diet of the Word, and following the leading of the Spirit of God in application - and suffocating the desires of the flesh), but we will never be completely free until we are glorified. Apparently it does control us from time to time, at least in that 'we do what we don't want to and don't do what we should', again as Paul said in Romans 7.
Also, I don't think dualism is necessarily a bad thing. The Bible is highly antithetical: Spirit - flesh, light - dark, good - evil, etc. I hope this helps.
Okay, so what does Agonizomai get for being the first to answer correctly? I think it's worth a Team Pyro T-shirt, at least - and maybe even a set of John MacArthur Commentaries, eh?
We don't have any, and I don't have any, respectively.
He gets... my respect. And my appreciation. My respect and appreciation. He gets that.
Well . . . those are no small rewards, and he is surely deserving of them (intangible though they be).
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